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03-04-2008, 09:19 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Children obey your parents in the Lord: for this is right. Ephesians....How many things can be said about this one scripture. Volumes! You as a parent are the one that decides what is acceptable attire for your children. Unless you just say...children I trust you to make the right choices. How can you trust them unless they are taught what is right and what is wrong. So whether you want to admit it, you as a parent must decide and enforce what is proper and improper for your children.
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"Because I said so!" IS a valid reason for a parent to give their kid..... When their kid is 7, 8, or 9, or younger. However, as they get older, they do need some reasons. When I was in my middle teens I heard "because the Church says...." or more commonly "because the pastor says!" as "reason enough!" to do something. When I became an adult, the freedom from that sort of reasoning was very liberating!
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03-04-2008, 09:44 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
Doesn't the Bible say that 'old things have passed away and behold all is new'? May not refer to this exactly but it is a principle that can be applied in several areas, right?
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03-04-2008, 09:54 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Doesn't the Bible say that 'old things have passed away and behold all is new'? May not refer to this exactly but it is a principle that can be applied in several areas, right?
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Yes, as matter of fact it can be applied much the same as where the bible says He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
so what now?
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03-04-2008, 09:56 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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I have this image of a game from the Price is Right (I know, TV show. Boo Hiss....)
It is a little swiss yodeler yodeling as he slowly moves back in time. YOUR job is to say "STOP" when he gets to the time that represents the "Old Paths" and "Old Ways". What time would that be?
Simple question..... But it is never answered.
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Like Randy, I continue to wait for the answer on this one.
Why won't the proponents of "old way of holiness" answer this question??? Just how far do you go back, and who gets to decide?
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03-04-2008, 10:03 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Like Randy, I continue to wait for the answer on this one.
Why won't the proponents of "old way of holiness" answer this question??? Just how far do you go back, and who gets to decide?
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You have forsaken the "old ways of holiness" once those sleeves rise above your sexy elbows and / or you start playing card games with real cards rather than Rook! 
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03-04-2008, 10:03 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Yes, as matter of fact it can be applied much the same as where the bible says He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
so what now?
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God does not change at all. You are correct. But what is perceived as God speaking does change once you eyes are open. IMO. Because God does not change does not mean He does not allow things to change.
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03-04-2008, 10:05 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Like Randy, I continue to wait for the answer on this one.
Why won't the proponents of "old way of holiness" answer this question??? Just how far do you go back, and who gets to decide?
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Very good question, I believe we should model ourselves after the new testemant church that the apostles were building.
What was he saying when he was talking about the hair?
What was he saying when he was teaching the "holiness ways"?
Was it just for the new testament church,?
How do we know??
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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03-04-2008, 10:07 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by JTULLOCK
God does not change at all. You are correct. But what is perceived as God speaking does change once you eyes are open. IMO. Because God does not change does not mean He does not allow things to change.
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But the Word of God has not changed has it?
wouldn't His word still mean the same now as it did then?
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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03-04-2008, 10:33 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by scotty
But the Word of God has not changed has it?
wouldn't His word still mean the same now as it did then?
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God's word is a world away from the wild leaps in logic old time Oneness Pentecost makes in legislating so called "holiness".
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03-04-2008, 10:35 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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God's word is a world away from the wild leaps in logic old time Oneness Pentecost makes in legislating so called "holiness".
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I have not mentioned a support of old time OP....I am asking about the New Testament church and what the apostles taught.
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You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
www.scottysweb.com
www.chrisscottonline.com
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