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Old 02-24-2008, 10:26 AM
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Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to keep?

The Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to keep?

The WPF is keeping with the idea that we should keep our Holiness Standards we have kept over the years. Which I agree, Yes things change but do we?
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Old 02-24-2008, 10:52 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee

Which "Old Ways" do we keep? The "Old Ways" which started in the 1940's and 50's? Or the "Old Ways" that started 2000 years ago?

For most people the "Old Ways" officially start at the time of their oldest known relative such as grandparents or great grand parents and in addition are heavily influenced by the town and neighborhood they grew up in.
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The Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to keep?

The WPF is keeping with the idea that we should keep our Holiness Standards we have kept over the years. Which I agree, Yes things change but do we?
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Yes pls explain, is it mainly to do with dress standards? If so I agree, also with abstaining from questionable practices but then again that is a private or personal conviction(s)., today I don't believe its a good thing to force people to 100percent comply with everything unless its bible based, and/or GOD conviction I consider both to be present in my decision., meaning I don't have to have direct 100% blk/white written Bible IF I have GOD conviction ., the HG is there for a reason.
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Old 02-24-2008, 11:39 AM
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee

Or could it be the REALLY old ways, lol

Lets be glad that whatever 'standards' we might have that people either do or don't comply with, none of us are thrown in jail or prosecuted over it (persecuted? maybe ) such as the Islamics do to their people over their religious practices, got this from an article on MSN?

The Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice runs the fearsome religious police, which is charged with enforcing Saudi Arabia's strict Islamic lifestyle. Its members patrol public places to make sure women are covered and not wearing make up, the sexes don't mingle, shops close five times a day for Muslim prayers and men go to the mosque and worship.

Although I kind of do like the attention to detail.
I like that there is priority given to worshipping their god., our 'standards' aren't even close to what is required ( and enforced ) there yet some people still gotta complain here. *sigh*
BUT, a "commission for the promotion of VIRTUE and the prevention of VICE"??? LOL! Good grief, IF that were to be had here, what an outrage and riot would ensue.

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Let me see what has changed...
The Hebrew men wore beards...
The Hebrew men wore robes with blue fringes
The Hebrew men wore sandals...

John dresses in camel’s hair...ate locust and wild honey...

Jesus took a whip to the church of His day...

Paul made a Nazarite vow...


Well to name a few standards...
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my husband just told me my sense of humor would get us in trouble...Please don´t blame him...ha...
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Let me see what has changed...
The Hebrew men wore beards...
The Hebrew men wore robes with blue fringes
The Hebrew men wore sandals...

John dresses in camel’s hair...ate locust and wild honey...

Jesus took a whip to the church of His day...

Paul made a Nazarite vow...


Well to name a few standards...
Sis Alvear, you are a blessing to this forum!

As far as "old ways holiness standards", it seems that in every generation you will have some maintainers of the previous generation's standards, and mostly others that will redefine the standards (because of technology and culture changes) for their generation.

The problem comes when after a generation redefines the standards, they think it is perfect and the end all of end alls. They don't give the future generations any leeway to make adjustments.

So..the following generations either become maintainers, or become rebellious and redefine the standards again for their generation. And on and on it goes!
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee

The oldest standard:

Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Uh, not counting the fig leaves, of course. That was substandard. And before the fig leaves, well, I guess that was actually the first standard!
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The Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to keep?

The WPF is keeping with the idea that we should keep our Holiness Standards we have kept over the years. Which I agree, Yes things change but do we?
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Could you be a little more specific, please?

Generally speaking I will answer yes. However, some things that can be lumped into the "old way" are extrabiblical preferences only. Keeping these types of standards is counterproductive.

I'm for an outward standard of holiness that is supported by scripture, such as ladies not cutting their hair, men and women alike dressing modestly, and avoiding worldly amusements.

I'm even MORE for an inward standard of holiness, since there is MUCH MORE bible regarding this, and stressing its importance. Without a right relationship, clothesline pentecostalism is just another cult.
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In my view, it depends on what "standards" being referred to. Some have their basis in creation... and some are both scriptural and common sense... and some are man made.

Unfortunately some are being tossed because they are considered man made when they really were God made.

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