We'll never know what would have been the outcome had Hanby and Phillips been allowed to test the waters and do a pilot into TV with the blessing of the org. The rejection of their belief that God was directing their paths, no doubt produced incredible conflict into their ministries. And though there was not a huge walkout the org split back then none the less. I and many other young hungry and committed men and women left in the pursuing months and years. If the org had been mature enough P&H would have seen the problems and difficulties with TV broadcasting and there might have been opportunity for redirection and redefining into a workable media outreach. Instead when they did not succeed in their early attempts, it was as if they were wrong and failed. Phillips as survived in some manner, Han by seems to be a major train wreck. So, in my opinion the org failed miserably, and lost thousands of its children which is even now proving to be disastrous, with the continuing exit of it future generations.
It is easy just to cast them away as rebellious and carnal. Yet now the org faces the same issues again with some of its most dynamic leaders, will it may the same mistakes again? If it passes now it proves even more glaringly the failure of the earlier decisions. My advise to the UPC, grow up and mature or pass on to irrelevance. Of, course no one is listening to my input.
Good words.
Hardness of spirit and of the heart can only deal lifelessness in the generations to come, who bear fruit but not after Christ, but rather after a RELIGION.
We'll never know what would have been the outcome had Hanby and Phillips been allowed to test the waters and do a pilot into TV with the blessing of the org. The rejection of their belief that God was directing their paths, no doubt produced incredible conflict into their ministries. And though there was not a huge walkout the org split back then none the less. I and many other young hungry and committed men and women left in the pursuing months and years. If the org had been mature enough P&H would have seen the problems and difficulties with TV broadcasting and there might have been opportunity for redirection and redefining into a workable media outreach. Instead when they did not succeed in their early attempts, it was as if they were wrong and failed. Phillips as survived in some manner, Han by seems to be a major train wreck. So, in my opinion the org failed miserably, and lost thousands of its children which is even now proving to be disastrous, with the continuing exit of it future generations.
It is easy just to cast them away as rebellious and carnal. Yet now the org faces the same issues again with some of its most dynamic leaders, will it may the same mistakes again? If it passes now it proves even more glaringly the failure of the earlier decisions. My advise to the UPC, grow up and mature or pass on to irrelevance. Of, course no one is listening to my input.
someone call 911. I agree with crackjack.
one wonders what could have been done had the UPCI worked within some solid guidelines to test these waters. there is no telling.
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Hardness of spirit and of the heart can only deal lifelessness in the generations to come, who bear fruit but not after Christ, but rather after a RELIGION.
If everyone had a soft and tender spirit as Bro. Ewing has always had, our fellowship would be far more forgiving and less dictatorial on churches and ministers who sincerely want to do God's bidding.
Politics is an ugly family member compared to the beauty of mystery Babylon.
If everyone had a soft and tender spirit as Bro. Ewing has always had, our fellowship would be far more forgiving and less dictatorial on churches and ministers who sincerely want to do God's bidding.
Politics is an ugly family member compared to the beauty of mystery Babylon.
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YEP...GOD MISSED IT BY NOT HAVING TV AROUND ON THE DAY OF PENTECOST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Come on.....................the UPC was for fellowship and carrying the WHOLE GOSPEL to the WHOLE WORLD.............
If they ain't in the same ship they need to sail off.........
and most of these guys that are pro-tv don't believe the WHOLE GOSPEL enough to even believe the essentiality of the NEW BIRTH
I quoted both of these posts to see if anyone else can see the difference in the spirit that each was written!
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If everyone had a soft and tender spirit as Bro. Ewing has always had, our fellowship would be far more forgiving and less dictatorial on churches and ministers who sincerely want to do God's bidding.
Politics is an ugly family member compared to the beauty of mystery Babylon.
This is so true, I can say I have never been affect by a ministry Like ME before, he just has such love about him. I am so glad that I ever met him.
GOOD THOUGHTS!
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