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Bro. Epley...I really disagree with you on this one! Perhaps we should also make the bride show the bridal bed sheets the next morning as well!?????
No, I think that is going too far. Let the bride wear whatever she wishes. What is important is that the couple is making the union official, and that should be encouraged.
Just curious: What do you make the men wear that is different from the virginal groom? Wouldn't they also "deserve the difference?" Or is it only the bride that bears the shame of the indiscretion?
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08-13-2007, 08:23 PM
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There is none but white means purity in wedding ceremonies thus to wear white with that understanding is a mockery. Some girls really do stay clean until they marry and they deserve the difference.
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I kinda thought so.
This reminds so of your arguments on facial hair where you declared the below concerning men withbeards:
Originally Posted by steveepley:
There are Pentecostal churches all around me they can go to Heaven from there I will share. Feeling generous today. Yes this is God's church but I am the poor example of the nit-wit he placed over this work and I am so small-minded andcontrolling I say NOT HERE!(deadhorse)I will tell them GO TO HEAVEN but not from here!!!
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08-13-2007, 08:23 PM
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I love working with young people. Many confide in me and depend on my love and guidance. I have always tryed to give them a mother´s advice from God´s point of veiw.
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08-13-2007, 08:24 PM
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I am not asking to stir up ruffles...I teach our young people´s class and questions have been asked and I am trying to help OUR young people. I do not mean someone coming in from the world.
Do you folks have guide lines for your young people? Do you have good study books for them?
How does youth pastors work out in the states?
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Sister Alvear, purity should certainly be taught upon, and principles can be instilled that will help young people make good decisions when temptation presents itself. However, I don't think that punishing the bride by disallowing a certain color of wedding gown is helpful at all.
It would be more considerate to insist on no church wedding at all, than to make such a public distinction. Talk about the Scarlet Letter! Goodness.
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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08-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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I have heard about pastors who refuse to allow the couple to marry in the sanctuary. They are allowed to have a ceremony outside on the church grounds or in the church hall, but NOT in the sanctuary. This is ridiculous. Even if it was a 'church' couple that slipped up, if they have repented -they are forgiven. Who are you or I to hold their transgression against them? It's a slap in the face to say "God forgave you, but we didn't.. so you must get married outside of the sanctuary.." If it were up to some, they'd stitch a scarlet letter into the wedding garments...
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08-13-2007, 08:25 PM
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You can go to heaven with a beard but a fornicator cannot go to heaven except he/she repents.
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08-13-2007, 08:26 PM
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Man, times have changed...wow! I heard all of this in the secular world but now the church?? And remember, I ain't a Ucon!!!
It is MY opinion (yes mine so I'm entitled to it) that the virgin marriage is the best option and that we make a statement with a white dress, nuf said by me.
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08-13-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I love working with young people. Many confide in me and depend on my love and guidance. I have always tryed to give them a mother´s advice from God´s point of veiw.
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Prevention is worth a pound of cure...but when there is a problem...I think Jesus' response to the adulteress woman is a good example that we should follow. He did NOT proceed with any public humiliation, even though the law called for it, and far more.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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08-13-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Bro. Epley...I really disagree with you on this one! Perhaps we should also make the bride show the bridal bed sheets the next morning as well!?????
No, I think that is going too far. Let the bride wear whatever she wishes. What is important is that the couple is making the union official, and that should be encouraged.
Just curious: What do you make the men wear that is different from the virginal groom? Wouldn't they also "deserve the difference?" Or is it only the bride that bears the shame of the indiscretion?
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I'd bet that no such distinction is put on the man at Epley's church. Just the women bear the shame!
That's a shame!!
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08-13-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
I am not asking to stir up ruffles...I teach our young people´s class and questions have been asked and I am trying to help OUR young people. I do not mean someone coming in from the world.
Do you folks have guide lines for your young people? Do you have good study books for them?
How does youth pastors work out in the states?
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Sis. Alvear there is a series called True Love Waits that has been used for many years and offers some good material.
My daughter actually wears this ring as does her boyfriend.
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