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Old 07-05-2018, 08:05 AM
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In June of 1772, the British courts issued judgement in what is called the Somerset Case. The case involved a runaway slave, James Somerset, who was the "property" of Charles Stewart, a customs officer from Boston, Massachusetts. Stewart and Somerset came to England from America in 1769. During his time in England, Somerset was exposed to the free black community there, and was inspired to escape his master in late 1771.

Somerset's escape was not successful; he was caught, and was to be sent (for sale?) to the British colony of Jamaica. However, Somerset was defended and supported by abolitionists who went to court on his behalf, and prevented his being shipped to Jamaica. It is noted by Somerset's defense that, "while colonial laws might permit slavery, neither the common law of England nor any law made by Parliament recognized the existence of slavery, and slavery was therefore illegal."

The Chief Justice of the King's Bench, Lord Mansfield, said in his ruling:
"..The state of slavery is of such a nature, that it is incapable of being introduced on any reasons, moral or political; but only positive law, which preserves its force long after the reasons, occasion, and time itself from whence it was created, is erased from memory: it's so odious, that nothing can be suffered to support it, but positive law. Whatever inconveniences, therefore, may follow from a decision, I cannot say this case is allowed or approved by the law of England; and therefore the black must be discharged."
This made Southerners concerned, for two reasons. First, they were worried that American slaves would hear about the Somerset decision, and try to escape to England where they would be declared free per the decision's precedent. But even more, they were worried that slavery in America was endangered.

Here's the problem with the way the Revolutionary War is taught: much of the story about the War centers on the northern colonies, particularly Massachusetts, where pivotal events such as the Boston Tea Party and the Boston Massacre took place, and where the term "no taxation without representation" originated. And there's no doubt that Massachusetts was a flashpoint in the coming war of independence.

But there were 13 original colonies, and the southern colonies had a unique interest of their own to worry about: protecting their "right" to keep slaves.

The very common reference to one's rights concerning one's own property are often references to the property of slave owners, i.e., slaves.

So yes, the effort to protect the institution of slavery was in deed a factor in the Revolutionary war.
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It was a "Twitter Moment" by NPR, but basically a Dem feed.
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Old 07-05-2018, 10:20 AM
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Yeah, word of the Somerset Case wouldn't have worried the southern colonies at all.

It's not like the southern colonies and the states they'd eventually become would be ever willing to fight a war over the right to own slaves anyway, right?
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I read on Twitter today that there was new evidence found which showed a large reason the Founding Fathers declared independence was because the King of England was going to outlaw slaves. And since the rich, white colonialist wanted to keep their slaves, they declared independence from England.

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I got this in an email from one of the brothers in church.

https://freedomoutpost.com/jefferson...emned-slavery/


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Yeah, word of the Somerset Case wouldn't have worried the southern colonies at all.

It's not like the southern colonies and the states they'd eventually become would be ever willing to fight a war over the right to own slaves anyway, right?
Don't let these guys bully you bro!
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Yeah, word of the Somerset Case wouldn't have worried the southern colonies at all.

It's not like the southern colonies and the states they'd eventually become would be ever willing to fight a war over the right to own slaves anyway, right?
While you are dissing the USA, keep in mind that our nation has the shortest lived history of slavery than any other.
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