Have you changed?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i don't think it is too far afield to suggest that a little child--which we are seeking to become--has not even embraced any beliefs such as these, and would not comprehend our changes in beliefs.

We are not become as little children in the sense of being childish and incapable of mature thoughts and ideas. We are to become as little children in the sense of being willing to learn from Christ, and being obedient to His teaching.

[Jito463]

Originally Posted by Esaias

We are not become as little children in the sense of being childish and incapable of mature thoughts and ideas. We are to become as little children in the sense of being willing to learn from Christ, and being obedient to His teaching.

Amen. Also, a child relies completely on his/her parents to supply their every need. They wholly trust that they will be provided for, without hesitation. We are instructed to rely on God in the same manner.

[shazeep]

nice.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Jito463

Amen. Also, a child relies completely on his/her parents to supply their every need. They wholly trust that they will be provided for, without hesitation. We are instructed to rely on God in the same manner.

Right, why would it mean ignorance and not knowing depth when the same bible tells us to come into the deep things of God?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Right, why would it mean ignorance and not knowing depth when the same bible tells us to come into the deep things of God?

well, you suggest "ignorance" and "depth," but a little child shall lead them, and you must become like one of these, so what do adults know about depth and ignorance? We learn vanity, for the most part, i am convinced. I suggest unlearning first.

[mfblume]

As the others said, becoming like a child means trust and acceptance, not ignorance of depth. But this is a contextual issue again. Alas!

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

As the others said, becoming like a child means trust and acceptance, not ignorance of depth. But this is a contextual issue again. Alas!

ya, i wasn't looking for other peoples' interpretations there, but ty. I frequently do ask, at passages that are not clear, but imo there is no context necessary at "a little child."

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by shazeep

but imo there is no context necessary at "a little child."

Of course not. Same with cross, legalism and law, right?

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Of course not. Same with cross, legalism and law, right?

"you need context" strikes me as mostly a way to discredit the Bible, wadr. i know this is not intended; but then i don't know, as you have no problem condemning everyone who does not believe like you do, yet you need "context" for Judge not, lest you be judged. what that context could possibly be, i cannot imagine. So, since that is an area of disagreement with...well, us, at least, i would prefer to ask what definitions we might agree upon for those 3 terms, which might be quite different than "a little child" in the common mind, or they might be the same.

Iow you have requirements for salvation that a more holistic view of Scripture does not necessarily support, but do not believe you follow any "law," thus you cannot be a legalist, a lawyer. Your response is "the Bible made me do it," but still, this is not equated with "law" in your mind, because...what? Law must be the Decalogue, perhaps. I'm not sure, don't want to put words in your mouth, but your definitions of "law" and "legalism" seem to vary, iow, depending, i guess, on "context."

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by mfblume

As the others said, becoming like a child means trust and acceptance

yet you do not trust or accept, it seems. Hmm.