Wow, I've never heard that version of the song (I assume it's the original version?). Thanks for posting that. Believe it or not, my mom and my sisters played that for a Methodist church once. Oddly enough, they enjoyed it, but didn't quite know what to make of it when they sped the song up.
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Sometimes hidden dangers spring on us suddenly. Those are out of our control. But when one can see the danger, and then refuses to arrest , all in the name of "God is in control", they are forfeiting God given, preventive opportunities.
Wow, I've never heard that version of the song (I assume it's the original version?). Thanks for posting that. Believe it or not, my mom and my sisters played that for a Methodist church once. Oddly enough, they enjoyed it, but didn't quite know what to make of it when they sped the song up.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
i wasn't going to reply, because you guys are mosly all OP, and I'm Apostolic, but i guess a little contrast won't hurt, and might explain some of my replies, dunno.
CB:
Please share What you believe?
I don't want to read your explanation just the bottom line.
I'll go firs.
I am convinced and totally persuaded.. he who says he knows...
Faith comes from preaching. hearing, which usually happens later
One God Jesus Name, yup, understood spiritually anyway; that wasn't His Name
Prayer, Our Father in heaven
The beginning of a Saved life starts by grace thru faith not of works, obeying Acts 2:38. great, in principle. When you say "I apologize, i was wrong" you have just repented
Thorough, heart changing, life changing repentance, ...who can find it?
Blood at water baptism, that verse is misinterpreted, but by all means get a ritual baptism too if it has meaning for you
Tongues is the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost. when you find xenoglossy and crowds amazed, let me know
Pre-trib rapture, heresy, Ezekiel's "pillows," reissued 150 years ago
One man and one woman family for life. I hate divorce for any reason. what God has joined...
Bible based holiness and da separation from the world. who can find that either
Revival and Evangelism go hand in hand. yet we have plenty of evangelists, and no revival
Fasting in more than just food, yes
Foot washing spiritually understood, no one wants you to be washing their feet
Teaching bible studies as long as the teacher learns something too
A physical paper leather bound Bible, (or similar) not a bad stone tool
Supporting God's ministry with tithe. a worker earns wages, where service is given. If...i don't know, Anonymous, is giving more service, give them more money.
Giving offering surely more relevant now
The church is where His people come to worship, and hear God speak to his gathered people. mostly religion now
God's Mercy is afforded to whosoever will because of HIS love toward us. as opposed to what? so, yes.
The Grace of God is his enabling power to overcome sin, and continually work salvation in the heart of a sincere believer as long as they continue to walk in the light. see above
Altar benches see above
A pastor ( if a Saint) a Right Pastor. Be prepared to change RPs, current RP should concur
Elders ( if a full time minister) can't imagine anyone saying no to this
A pulpit is it mortgaged, too?
Strong preaching makes for great politicians
A pastor setting a standard of dress and conduct based on his prayer life convictions that God has given him for dat assembly. if you aren't being voluntarily emulated, you are doing it wrong
Intercessory prayer the prayer of a righteous man avails much
A five fold ministry Everything you are and think and do is permeated with Oneness. 7 But that doesn't mean you should all look and speak and act the same. Out of the generosity of Christ, each of us is given his own gift. 8 The text for this is, He climbed the high mountain, He captured the enemy and seized the booty, He handed it all out in gifts to the people. 9 It's true, is it not, that the One who climbed up also climbed down, down to the valley of earth? 10 And the One who climbed down is the One who climbed back up, up to highest heaven. He handed out gifts above and below, filled heaven with his gifts, 11 filled earth with his gifts.
The fruit of the Spirit that's how you know
Preaching is da most important part of every service. as long as people are served, fine
Giving the man of God double honor. who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy
A prayer life. for a witness, then? Our Father in heaven...
And such-like when "surgery" becomes "miracle," you got a problem, bro. When you can't discuss the problem, you got a waaay bigger problem.
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
and born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day He rose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
From thence He will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Christian church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
i wasn't going to reply, because you guys are mosly all OP, and I'm Apostolic, but i guess a little contrast won't hurt, and might explain some of my replies, dunno.
CB:
Please share What you believe?
I don't want to read your explanation just the bottom line.
I'll go firs.
I am convinced and totally persuaded.. he who says he knows...
Faith comes from preaching. hearing, which usually happens later
One God Jesus Name, yup, understood spiritually anyway; that wasn't His Name
Prayer, Our Father in heaven
The beginning of a Saved life starts by grace thru faith not of works, obeying Acts 2:38. great, in principle. When you say "I apologize, i was wrong" you have just repented
Thorough, heart changing, life changing repentance, ...who can find it?
Blood at water baptism, that verse is misinterpreted, but by all means get a ritual baptism too if it has meaning for you
Tongues is the initial evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost. when you find xenoglossy and crowds amazed, let me know
Pre-trib rapture, heresy, Ezekiel's "pillows," reissued 150 years ago
One man and one woman family for life. I hate divorce for any reason. what God has joined...
Bible based holiness and da separation from the world. who can find that either
Revival and Evangelism go hand in hand. yet we have plenty of evangelists, and no revival
Fasting in more than just food, yes
Foot washing spiritually understood, no one wants you to be washing their feet
Teaching bible studies as long as the teacher learns something too
A physical paper leather bound Bible, (or similar) not a bad stone tool
Supporting God's ministry with tithe. a worker earns wages, where service is given. If...i don't know, Anonymous, is giving more service, give them more money.
Giving offering surely more relevant now
The church is where His people come to worship, and hear God speak to his gathered people. mostly religion now
God's Mercy is afforded to whosoever will because of HIS love toward us. as opposed to what? so, yes.
The Grace of God is his enabling power to overcome sin, and continually work salvation in the heart of a sincere believer as long as they continue to walk in the light. see above
Altar benches see above
A pastor ( if a Saint) a Right Pastor. Be prepared to change RPs, current RP should concur
Elders ( if a full time minister) can't imagine anyone saying no to this
A pulpit is it mortgaged, too?
Strong preaching makes for great politicians
A pastor setting a standard of dress and conduct based on his prayer life convictions that God has given him for dat assembly. if you aren't being voluntarily emulated, you are doing it wrong
Intercessory prayer the prayer of a righteous man avails much
A five fold ministry Everything you are and think and do is permeated with Oneness. 7 But that doesn't mean you should all look and speak and act the same. Out of the generosity of Christ, each of us is given his own gift. 8 The text for this is, He climbed the high mountain, He captured the enemy and seized the booty, He handed it all out in gifts to the people. 9 It's true, is it not, that the One who climbed up also climbed down, down to the valley of earth? 10 And the One who climbed down is the One who climbed back up, up to highest heaven. He handed out gifts above and below, filled heaven with his gifts, 11 filled earth with his gifts.
The fruit of the Spirit that's how you know
Preaching is da most important part of every service. as long as people are served, fine
Giving the man of God double honor. who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy
A prayer life. for a witness, then? Our Father in heaven...
And such-like when "surgery" becomes "miracle," you got a problem, bro. When you can't discuss the problem, you got a waaay bigger problem.
Hahahahaha!
Thank you for posting your beliefs.
__________________ Mahalo E Ke Akua No Keia La !!!
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
And in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord,
who was conceived by the Holy Spirit,
and born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, died and was buried.
He descended into hell.
On the third day He rose again from the dead.
He ascended into heaven
and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty.
From thence He will come to judge the living and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Spirit,
the holy Christian church,
the communion of saints,
the forgiveness of sins,
the resurrection of the body,
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
Interesting,
Is that your own personal creed? Or Does your church say that in services? I know some catholic profess something like this, almost verbatim. I'm not making fun just hit me that way is all. Just Curious
Hang ten.
__________________ Mahalo E Ke Akua No Keia La !!!
Interesting,
Is that your own personal creed? Or Does your church say that in services? I know some catholic profess something like this, almost verbatim. I'm not making fun just hit me that way is all. Just Curious
Hang ten.
It is a slight variation of The Apostles Creed. My church does not say it but the church I went to for many years, Christ Church Nashville, did. Not every service but a few times a year and it was taught as part of an 8 week "Understanding God" class folks had to take to teach Sunday School, etc at the church.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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