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Old 07-23-2014, 09:15 AM
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Re: FBI Paid Muslims to Commit Acts of Terror

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I thought Fast and Furious was a stupid op, but this makes it look like a brilliant and well thought out plan.

n david,
I agree with your disdain for these operations. I really, really do.

However, seriously, how else would you suggest the FBI investigate people who are potential terrorists?

If you have 4 poor people from Pittsburgh who hate America for whatever stupid reason, then the FBI finds out about them and investigates them, and then finds in their investigating, that the only thing stopping these four poor people from carrying out carnage is that they are poor, what would you do with them?

Would you not see just how far these four poor people would go?
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n david,
I agree with your disdain for these operations. I really, really do.

However, seriously, how else would you suggest the FBI investigate people who are potential terrorists?

If you have 4 poor people from Pittsburgh who hate America for whatever stupid reason, then the FBI finds out about them and investigates them, and then finds in their investigating, that the only thing stopping these four poor people from carrying out carnage is that they are poor, what would you do with them?

Would you not see just how far these four poor people would go?
If there are 4 poor people who hate America and have made threats: Sure I'd see how far they would go. This is where surveillance and the NSA should come in. Not by tracking every law-abiding citizen's emails and phone calls, but by pinpoint surveillance. You get something like this, you get the warrants, tap the phones, bank accounts, homes, emails, texts, etc.

Part of this, IMO, is just laziness by the FBI. Old school surveillance is long and boring. It's much easy to throw money and give the suspects a plan, then arrest them when they try to act on it. Plus it makes for a better headline....Headline: "FBI catches terrorists planning to bomb xxxxxxx!" Yeah, but only because the FBI helped them do so! It's just absurd to me.

Again, all the threats which are made against every President, yet the Secret Service (as far as we know) has never given the threat money and weapons to act on their threats in order to see how far they'll go.
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Care to elaborate?
The example given was

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Jesus said that if you look with lust upon a woman, you have already committed adultery with her.

it is the intent of the heart, where the crime starts.
US law isn't Minority Report. It's not based on Biblical law. I do believe the founders were influenced by God, but they made this a Republic, not a Theocracy.

Jesus' words above were not for the political government of His time, but for the people.
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