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Old 06-01-2007, 01:19 PM
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Ditto. And seriously, can supporters of such an amendment blame Bush if it doesn't get passed? Do they even know how hard it is for a constitutional amendment to get passed? The President has zero power to institute a constitutional amendment.

I also don't think Bush is "the worst president ever." Seriously...I don't think much of the job Bush has done, but "worst ever?" Nah.
It doesn't bother you that the gay marriage ammendment was a cornerstone of both of his election campaigns, and then he never mentioned it afterwards?
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Old 06-01-2007, 01:32 PM
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Also.... as it stands the Constitution doesn't have much to say about what politicians do or what judges rule these days.

What either do has no bearing on whether it is Constitutional or not.
But what they do may or may not be constitutional. Article I tells us what powers the Congress has, Article II tells us what powers the President has and Article III tells us what powers the Courts have. Any straying from those articles (as amended) is automatically unconstitutional.
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:48 PM
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He's the worst president in American history, and I voted for him twice!
Bush has been so demonized by the left until even those that voted for him now believe and are drinking the koolaid.

Does not anyone understand the VISION of the Isamofascists, Bush would have continued and would have destroyed Iran's nuke program if not interrupted by the brainwashing of the American public. Sixty-six million died in WWII, over 600,000 in Vietnam, now with less than 4000 deaths in Iraq, the left has convinced us that the price is too high. When will we pay the price? After the Marines in Beirut? The Cole? WTC 1993? 9/11? The price will continue to rise.
Iran is manipulating the Middle East, and will reach the point of no return in the nuke program late this year, then who will stand against them? The koolaid drinkers think we would be safe if we would just pull out and let Iran have Iraq.

Appeasement is the watch word of the day. There is a spiritual blindness in the world. Listen to Bro. Jimmy Carter calling good evil and evil good. IT IS PURE LUNACY!!! THIS IS THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUE OF OUR DAY, YET EUROPE AND THE DEMOS (A NOW ALL OF AMERICA) SLEEP.
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:18 PM
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Bush has been so demonized by the left until even those that voted for him now believe and are drinking the koolaid.
Considering the degree to which American rights are being eroded, I would agree.

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Does not anyone understand the VISION of the Isamofascists, Bush would have continued and would have destroyed Iran's nuke program if not interrupted by the brainwashing of the American public. Sixty-six million died in WWII, over 600,000 in Vietnam, now with less than 4000 deaths in Iraq, the left has convinced us that the price is too high. When will we pay the price? After the Marines in Beirut? The Cole? WTC 1993? 9/11? The price will continue to rise.
Well of course the Islamofascists want to destroy America - we've been interfering in the internal affairs of the Middle East and trying to impose our will there since the 1950s. Oh, and one death is too many if it's because of a government action that is unconstitutional.
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Iran is manipulating the Middle East, and will reach the point of no return in the nuke program late this year, then who will stand against them? The koolaid drinkers think we would be safe if we would just pull out and let Iran have Iraq.
So what if Iran is manipulating things? Everything is falling into place just as it should. You have to look at the bigger prophetic picture (and I don't mean the Preterist version of it) and see that all these things that are happening are setting us up for the rise of a one world government.

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Appeasement is the watch word of the day.
Well, we know appeasement didn't work in early 20th century Europe. But consider Luke 14:31-32, "Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace."

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There is a spiritual blindness in the world.
Yes, of course there is: we're all born with it!!!!!!

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Listen to Bro. Jimmy Carter calling good evil and evil good. IT IS PURE LUNACY!!! THIS IS THE MOST CRITICAL ISSUE OF OUR DAY, YET EUROPE AND THE DEMOS (A NOW ALL OF AMERICA) SLEEP.
No, it's the fulfillment of Bible prophecy.
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:44 PM
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But what they do may or may not be constitutional. Article I tells us what powers the Congress has, Article II tells us what powers the President has and Article III tells us what powers the Courts have. Any straying from those articles (as amended) is automatically unconstitutional.
Indeed...
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:15 AM
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It doesn't bother you that the gay marriage ammendment was a cornerstone of both of his election campaigns, and then he never mentioned it afterwards?
No.

Because I don't remember it being the "cornerstone" of his campaign. If anything was the cornerstone of his campaign, in the first campaign it was the appointment of federal judges. Since then, he has unquestionably built his presidency on the war against terrorism/Iraq, and that was pretty much the focus of the 2004 campaign. While he has vocalized his support of such an amendment, I don't think it's ever been the single issue he built his campaigns on.

And I never voted for Bush because of his support of a gay marriage amendment. In fact, I don't support such an amendment.
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