Obama Supporter: Name 3 Logical Reasons to Reelect

[tstew]

Originally Posted by canam

Stew, i dont believe that to be true,(98%) btw im Dem and everyone knows how i feel about this resident in chief,i have a question for you, did you vote for him and did you do it because he was a black man(or the closest we ever had anyway)? and 2 will you vote for him again even though everyone has now seen what a lefty, idealogue ,socialist ,friends with capitalist hating persons he is ? PS i also beleieve HE hates capitalism since he has stated that govt is responsible for the greatness of this country.

Wow. You're Dem? If you're Dem, I find it extremely ironic that you're the one saying that JD cannot be GOP. You seem one of the least Dem people I have met in quite some time. And no, I did not vote for or endorse President Obama. Most of the people here know how I feel about politics, the parties, and who is really calling the shots and manipulating the sheeple on both sides regardless of race or religion.

[tstew]

What I tend to respond to is these monolithic conversations and mindsets that I hear on both sides of the spectrum. If some of you only knew to what extent these conversations are just the opposite side of the same coin, you might understand my perspective a little better. I have conversations in settings that are just as uniformly and blindly Dem, and it drives me just as crazy.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Romney takes the term "flip-flopper" to a whole new level-- but very few are calling him on this.

"Flip-flops" are the worst kind of politician and have no patience for Romney and career politicians like him. They haven't the slightest clue about honesty.

Speaking of "flip-flops" there is a whole bunch of stuff on record and on film showing Obama as the candidate with his "false" promises and then Obama as the President as he publicly reverses himself on those things.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Nothing of the sort can happen without Congress.

If you want to guide the path of our country, be more concerned about Congress.

Unilaterally, the President can only do so much.


It's election time and the "Obama is the boogey man rhetoric" from Bortz and some other guy that comes on talk radio (maybe Maxwell?) is nauseating.

There's no room for a balanced, moderate, America loving Conservative.


I plan to vote for Obama with these factors in mind:

1) It was IMPOSSIBLE for our country to come out in "tip-top shape" after four years regardless of who was elected for President. For inheriting leadership of a country that was leading the fight in two wars and on the brink of the worst national financial catastrophe since the Great Depression, Obama and Congress has obviously done a few things right or else things wold be much, much worse.
BHO has done nothing to encourage job creation. He has used the power of government to reward his friends and supporters. How much money will we have to lose by giving it to companies that go bankrupt before you see this? He has truly engaged in Chicago-style politics at a national level.
2) The American auto industry has GOD, President Obama, and Congressional Democrats to thank for their thriving existence today as most conservatives were willing to let these industries fail. I am glad they didn't fold.
I don't remember Ford taking any government money. And I believe they are still in business. So, by US auto industry you must mean GM. The payoff to GM was a reward to the auto unions for being staunch Democrat supporters. GM is still on a non-sustainable long term path, due to their union liabilities and issues. The patronage system has had a great revival under BHO.

3) With the political instability that has happened in the world in the last four years, I am glad that Obama has demonstrated wise and measured responses. I am disappointed on all parties' silence on what's going on in Syria, but I am not sure of the financial wisdom of getting America involved there and I am sure that politically it would be a disaster for Obama's base. As for Romney, I don't think Romney has any fight in him. He's trying to appeal to as many Democrats and Indies as possible, that means he is going to do all that he can to appear like Obama-- which won't be hard for him at all.
BHO has basically followed the GWB template for foreign intervention and affairs. I have grown weary of our continued intervention around the world. And I believe that it has become counter productive. I also believe that BHO strongly encouraged and supported the "Arab Spring", which I believe will become a gateway for Islamic fundamentalist governments in the Middle East.
As for your comments on Romney, these sound like you are trying to justify your reasons to not support him.
4) He delayed Keystone, but if there aren't any MAJOR environmental consequences to the project, then I am sure that he will move forward with it. Absent any major environmental consequences, he would be foolish to not move forward with Keystone.
BHO has consistently refused to help the oil/gas/coal industry in this nation. We have closed numerous electical plants because they cannot meet new government standards, for which BHO is directly responsible. His energy secretary has publically stated that he wants higher gas prices. He will not move forward on Keystone, unless he believes public opinion is at a tipping point.
5) I like Obama, and I Romney is the one candidate that I refuse to support-- regardless of his running mate.

JD - I have a great deal of respect for you and we have always had civil discussions. I have many friends in the African-American community and many of them will admit that one of the reasons they are voting for or did vote for BHO is the color of his skin. Now, most of them will also say that they usually vote Democrat, anyway, so that it really does not matter!
Now, here is what I believe about BHO. I think that he is a committed socialist. I believe he is entrenched in the Chicago style politics of punish your enemies and reward your friends. I believe he is one of the best liars that we have had in politics, lately. I also believe that he is over his head.
Now, with all of that I do believe that his "likeability" will get him back into office. He seems to be a good husband and father, he likes hoops and he can connect with people. But, I believe future generations will look back at his era and ask "what were they thinking"?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

...Now, here is what I believe about BHO. I think that he is a committed socialist. I believe he is entrenched in the Chicago style politics of punish your enemies and reward your friends. I believe he is one of the best liars that we have had in politics, lately. I also believe that he is over his head.
Now, with all of that I do believe that his "likeability" will get him back into office. He seems to be a good husband and father, he likes hoops and he can connect with people. But, I believe future generations will look back at his era and ask "what were they thinking"?

I agree.
I think we have a man in office who has swum through the political sewer system of Chicago politics and is thoroughly saturated with its stench. I believe he intends to bring the United States down to the level of some third rate socialist country like Greece and that he wants to promote Islamic power and influence in the world.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

canam,
I really don't appreciate your repeated accusations. Boldly, I post what I post under my real name-- not hiding behind a monicker. I haven't lied in my posts. Neither have I stated anything that would come close to justifying your accusations.

In fact, it is YOU that is playing the race card. If you vote for Romney, will it be because he is white? So why would I vote for Obama simply because he is black or half black?


Instead of groundsless accusations, reply to the logical points I have stated, supporting my decision to vote for the incumbent President.

Using your real name is irrelevant, so no one knows you that cares, i happen to not want my name on there for good reasons,2 no one who purports to be a conservative would vote for this guy,period ill vote for Romney because he gets it ,he is a business man unquestionably , and very qualified leader,who has an instant grasp of situations and disasters proven during the time of governing in Mass. unlike bo, who is a born liar,has zero leadership background or skills is a terrible speaker andhas done nothing he said he would ,except destroy business's like coal and oil and bragged about it,for you to accuse Romney of flip flopping is a joke compared to bo. im not buying what you said at all, for voting for him,there is another way you could do a protest vote, like i did one time (by voting for nader instead of bush or clinton.Does this make you a racist or anyone who thinks the way ive suggested ? no and NO!It jusy makes you very disingenous, and i wil call anyone on it.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Sam

I agree.
I think we have a man in office who has swum through the political sewer system of Chicago politics and is thoroughly saturated with its stench. I believe he intends to bring the United States down to the level of some third rate socialist country like Greece and that he wants to promote Islamic power and influence in the world.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Sam

Speaking of "flip-flops" there is a whole bunch of stuff on record and on film showing Obama as the candidate with his "false" promises and then Obama as the President as he publicly reverses himself on those things.

too many to list

[canam]

Originally Posted by tstew

Wow. You're Dem? If you're Dem, I find it extremely ironic that you're the one saying that JD cannot be GOP. You seem one of the least Dem people I have met in quite some time. And no, I did not vote for or endorse President Obama. Most of the people here know how I feel about politics, the parties, and who is really calling the shots and manipulating the sheeple on both sides regardless of race or religion.

i would consider myself a blue dog dem. and my feeling is no gop.er would vote for Bo under any sort of protest

[Dedicated Mind]

Originally Posted by Sam

I agree.
I think we have a man in office who has swum through the political sewer system of Chicago politics and is thoroughly saturated with its stench. I believe he intends to bring the United States down to the level of some third rate socialist country like Greece and that he wants to promote Islamic power and influence in the world.

Sam, how can you call yourself a christian minister and promote these racist lies? I doubt your christianity.