Interesting Facts about US Consumption

[citizen]

Originally Posted by sandie

I hope you know these people personally. Because we're not suppose to bear false witness.
And how is your earth friendly tent? How are you getting along sipping a little water each day, and rubbing those two sticks together now and then to get a little heat on a cold day? Because the words beam and log come to mind....

Do I personally know some greedy people...uhhh YEAH.
Do I think the stats make me ask myself if I need to look in my own pantry and my own closets and start spreading the wealth and not eat so much mind numbing much?...uhh YEAH. I cant grow in God unless I repent of my sins.

Number one, God does not like it one bit.
Number two, its not healthy.
Number three, I want to show my children that its do-able to do alot with much less, whether its clothing or food and expensive entertainment
Number four, it feels better to give than to receive.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by sandie

Excuse me....he/she calls others "greedy"...now that's a personal attack.

When we point out the faults of others, I would hope the person doing that isn't guilty of those faults.

Maybe I missed something... but I didn't see where the term 'greedy' was used until post #11 which came after your post #9.

I was just surprised at the tone as until then, all that was posted were simple stats.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by citizen

Do I personally know some greedy people...uhhh YEAH.
Do I think the stats make me ask myself if I need to look in my own pantry and my own closets and start spreading the wealth and not eat so much mind numbing much?...uhh YEAH. I cant grow in God unless I repent of my sins.

Number one, God does not like it one bit.
Number two, its not healthy.
Number three, I want to show my children that its do-able to do alot with much less, whether its clothing or food and expensive entertainment
Number four, it feels better to give than to receive.

Fine, then you need to do those things and I wish you well and much success.

Sharing your personal convictions is one thing, calling fellow Christians greedy is another.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Maybe I missed someting... but I didn't see where the term 'greedy' was used until post #11 which came after your post #9.

I was just surprised at the tone as until then, all that was posted were simple stats.

Okay, fine...that's the way you saw it.
I saw the whole list as a slam against American citizens over consumption, which in and of itself says: greed. It then proceeded to only include Christians.

America really isnt' all that bad, imo.

[Azzan]

Oops, I see it in post #5.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by ILG

Do you know that many Americans are overweight because we don't have ENOUGH money to spend on decent food? Very often, the lower the socioeconomic status, the higher the weight because foods like mac and cheese, which isn't very nutritious, is very cheap. Since many people are malnourished or undernourished, they eat more as their bodies crave food (nutrition) and they again eat the wrong kind of cheap calories and gain weight.

This is true. If anybody doesn't think it is true... have you ever tried dieting? You better have some cash on hand if you're going to eat right in this world.

[sandie]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Oops, I see it in post #5.

I didn't go back and count the number of posts, I took your word.
Thanks for correcting it.

[Azzan]

Originally Posted by sandie

Okay, fine...that's the way you saw it.
I saw the whole list as a slam against American citizens over consumption, which in and of itself says: greed. It then proceeded to only include Christians.

America really isnt' all that bad, imo.

I don't necessarily see it as greed. But it's pretty hard to argue against some of the stats.

[sandie]

And if we want to get technical about the personal attacks:

#3 "But we have become gluttonous and ungrateful."

That's a broad brush which now only includes Christians, I supppose.

We all have personal convictions and things that we think should be corrected in society. She's entitled to those beliefs just as I'm entitled to question when those things are posted on a public forum

I hope she succeeds in those personal convictions and wish her only the very best in her attempts.
I'm sure by her example she'll succeed in convincing others to do likewise.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by ILG

Do you know that many Americans are overweight because we don't have ENOUGH money to spend on decent food? Very often, the lower the socioeconomic status, the higher the weight because foods like mac and cheese, which isn't very nutritious, is very cheap. Since many people are malnourished or undernourished, they eat more as their bodies crave food (nutrition) and they again eat the wrong kind of cheap calories and gain weight.

I am not sure that I buy that rhetoric. I hear the stories on the news too. They can't afford to buy veggies, the only thing they can afford to eat is Mcdonalds... I disagree. They eat Mac and cheese because they want to. They eat Mcdonalds because they have money to blow and love big macs.

Growing up we never went to macdonalds - way to expensive. What is cheap to buy is veggies. Aldi's very often has canned green beans and peas 4 or 5 for a buck. It's all about choices - if some poor people make poor choices - that's cool it's a free country. The answer isn't limiting choice or blaming others for their stupidity.