One Less Anti-TV vote? WD Presybter leaves UPC?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by AGAPE

I was UPC. I have friends that are UPC.
Let's say that you are a conservative upc preacher and you preach against tv.
Now let's say that one of your new converts somehow finds out about the UPC okaying, even promoting, tv ad.,etc. How do you handle this?
TV is the last straw for most of the cons still left in the org.
I hope and pray that the TV resolution will be soundly defeated, BUT I "think" that it will pass. Some mighty big names are sponsering it.

Big names or not, the men on that floor will not be swayed by pomp and circumstance.

I have a bigger problem with the big names bragging on how they violate the rules. If a hotel room does not suit you, check out. No need to picket the corporate offices.

[CC1]

I have always had this wild scenario in the back of my mind. I know it is "wild" but nevertheless!!!!

What if the TV resolution fails again this year as I believe it will and a year or two in the future. At some point if this impasse seemed permanent it would be interesting if some of the TV advertising proponents jumped ship enmasse and joined the ALJC.

I would think that especially since the ALCJ's fortunes have been plumenting these last few years with some prominent members jumping over to the UPC that the ALJC would welcome this shot of fresh blood that could include some of the bigger churches in the UPC. Some of these pastors might find themselves having instant leadership roles in the ALJC!

I do not think this will happen but it has always intrigued me that the ALJC allows using TV to minister which would make it the logical home for UPC preachers who want to do that.

I don't understand why KP and MH didn't go that path back in 1977.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by CC1

I have always had this wild scenario in the back of my mind. I know it is "wild" but nevertheless!!!!

What if the TV resolution fails again this year as I believe it will and a year or two in the future. At some point if this impasse seemed permanent it would be interesting if some of the TV advertising proponents jumped ship enmasse and joined the ALJC.

I would think that especially since the ALCJ's fortunes have been plumenting these last few years with some prominent members jumping over to the UPC that the ALJC would welcome this shot of fresh blood that could include some of the bigger churches in the UPC. Some of these pastors might find themselves having instant leadership roles in the ALJC!

I do not think this will happen but it has always intrigued me that the ALJC allows using TV to minister which would make it the logical home for UPC preachers who want to do that.

I don't understand why KP and MH didn't go that path back in 1977.

And I agree with you. Some have said KP was wrong for the WAY he did the jump.

I don't know of any large ALJC TV out reach either.


Seems this idea of allowing preaching on TV is a moot point at sometime. They are on the net with video, sound, effects, and promotion. So the new Media Center of the Future merges all together, and where is the the line at then?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

And I agree with you. Some have said KP was wrong for the WAY he did the jump.

I don't know of any large ALJC TV out reach either.


Seems this idea of allowing preaching on TV is a moot point at sometime. They are on the net with video, sound, effects, and promotion. So the new Media Center of the Future merges all together, and where is the the line at then?

I am old enough to remember when KP left and he kept a very good spirit and attitude about it. The same could not be said for the UPC Texas DS and some others.

A lot of people tried to stir up trouble for him. I remember when I was in Bible College some UPC churches were complaining that KP's TV program was being show in their Metropolitan area. They accused him of trying to "prosletyze". The funny thing was that when people called in for info about Acts 2:38 ,etc the telephone counselors all had UPC manuals and directed people to their local UPC church!

[AGAPE]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

And I agree with you. Some have said KP was wrong for the WAY he did the jump.

I don't know of any large ALJC TV out reach either.


Seems this idea of allowing preaching on TV is a moot point at sometime. They are on the net with video, sound, effects, and promotion. So the new Media Center of the Future merges all together, and where is the the line at then?

BOOMM.
Are you okay with "preaching" video, on the net or at home?

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by AGAPE

BOOMM.
Are you okay with "preaching" video, on the net or at home?

The suspense is killing me

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by AGAPE

BOOMM.
Are you okay with "preaching" video, on the net or at home?

Are you okay with preaching on the net?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Originally Posted by AGAPE

BOOMM.
Are you okay with "preaching" video, on the net or at home?

Originally Posted by Monkeyman

The suspense is killing me

My Pastor is against it, and my District does not allow it at District Meetings.

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by BoredOutOfMyMind

My Pastor is against it, and my District does not allow it at District Meetings.

aannnd????? he he, you don't have to answer, just funnin' with ya

[Rico]

Originally Posted by AGAPE

I was UPC. I have friends that are UPC.
Let's say that you are a conservative upc preacher and you preach against tv.
Now let's say that one of your new converts somehow finds out about the UPC okaying, even promoting, tv ad.,etc. How do you handle this?
TV is the last straw for most of the cons still left in the org.
I hope and pray that the TV resolution will be soundly defeated, BUT I "think" that it will pass. Some mighty big names are sponsering it.

Aren't there other things, not mentioned in the manual, that preachers preach on? If the TV thing passes, I don't see how that would mean those opposed to tv could no longer preach against it.