Genesis 4 Cain and Abel
1Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain, saying, "I have gotten[a] a man with the help of the LORD." 2And again, she bore his brother Abel. Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a worker of the ground. 3In the course of time Cain brought to the LORD an offering of(A) the fruit of the ground, 4and Abel also brought of(B) the firstborn of his flock and of their fat portions. And the LORD(C) had regard for Abel and his offering, 5but(D) for Cain and his offering he had no regard. So Cain was very angry, and his face fell. 6The LORD said to Cain, "Why are you angry, and why has your face fallen? 7(E) If you do well, will you not be accepted?[b] And if you do not do well, sin is crouching at the door.(F) Its desire is for[c] you, but you must rule over it."
8Cain spoke to Abel his brother.[d] And when they were in the field, Cain rose up against his brother Abel and(G) killed him. 9Then the LORD said to Cain, "Where is Abel your brother?" He said,(H) "I do not know; am I my brother’s keeper?" 10And the LORD said, "What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood(I) is crying to me from the ground. 11And now(J) you are cursed from the ground, which has opened its mouth to receive your brother’s blood from your hand. 12When you work the ground, it shall no longer yield to you its strength. You shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth." 13Cain said to the LORD, "My(K) punishment is greater than I can bear.[e] 14Behold,(L) you have driven me today away from the ground, and(M) from your face I shall be hidden. I shall be a fugitive and a wanderer on the earth,(N) and whoever finds me will kill me." 15Then the LORD said to him, "Not so! If anyone kills Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him(O) sevenfold." And the LORD(P) put a mark on Cain, lest any who found him should attack him. 16Then Cain went away from the presence of the LORD and settled in the land of Nod,[f] east of Eden.
It just says that Adam and Eve had Cain and Abel.... no mention of other offspring at that point, and yet when Cain gets sent out "into the world", it's full of people who will want to kill him.
Why does it only mention Cain and Abel, and yet the earth is full of people?
Later it mentions that they had Seth.
By the time Cain killed his brother, they were both grown. We don't know how many children (and maybe grandchildren) Adam and Eve had by that time.
Ordinarily geneology lists show only prominent men who are heads of families or clans. With the death of Abel, he was replaced in the geneological line by Seth. We don't know how many brothers and sisters may have been born, married, and produced children in between them.
Genesis 6:4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Can anyone explain how children of Cain's daughters and of the righteous offspring of Adam and Eve produced these giants?
I have heard that this biblical account has been passed down, like the flood, and in many heathen groups, there are always tales of "the gods" coming down and having children with earthly women and producing Herculean-type offspring.
Also, this would not necessarily lead to serpent-seed doctrine, as I know preachers who preach this and do not believe in ss. One preacher who I know that preaches this, simply says that Genesis 6:4 (which he believes lines up with the passage in Jude) is an interesting tidbit, but it is not worth going crazy over, and it could be preached in a few sermons about things like obedience or sexual purity, but that it is not something that has a ton of practical application for us.
I have also been taught, that when we interpret the Scriptures, that we must remember that the book is about man, and not about angels, animals or the land or any other thing like that, although angels are mentioned, along with land and animals, their mention is brief.
Genesis 6:4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
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These "giants" or "mighty men which were of old, men of renown" which existed "in those days" and also "after that" (when the sons of God and daughters of men mingled), were they physical giants or does that refer to some other type of greatness?
These "giants" or "mighty men which were of old, men of renown" which existed "in those days" and also "after that" (when the sons of God and daughters of men mingled), were they physical giants or does that refer to some other type of greatness?
Maybe they're the 3000-cubit tall giants that Enoch talks about? (One translation, or maybe speculation, has them at 300 cubits, and maybe even 30. Still, that'd be, what, 45 feet?)
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Genesis 6:4There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
Can anyone explain how children of Cain's daughters and of the righteous offspring of Adam and Eve produced these giants?
The text does not say the children of these relationships were giants. It only says Giants were there, then.
Genesis 6:4 KJV There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
It simply says giants were in earth back then, and then it adds that the sons of God beget men of renown. Two different groups. Group A and then Group B. It says giants were there then, as well as after the sons of God beget children with daughters of men. It says the giants were there before the sons of God beget men of renown.
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2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; NIV
So yes, angels can sin.
As far as who Cain married I've always thought there had to be other people on Earth during that time. I don't think he married a sister or cousin or other descendant of Adam.
2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; NIV
So yes, angels can sin.
As far as who Cain married I've always thought there had to be other people on Earth during that time. I don't think he married a sister or cousin or other descendant of Adam.
Then not everyone alive today is necessarily a descendant of Adam and Eve?
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Then not everyone alive today is necessarily a descendant of Adam and Eve?
Correct. I can't find any place where the Bible says that everyone is a descendant of Adam and Eve. The Old Testament is concerned with the Jewish race and their ancestors. It wouldn't make sense for them to chronicle ancient Gentile persons.
LUKE2447: My wife says I believe in Gap theory though I had never even heard of that term until she mentioned it.
Correct. I can't find any place where the Bible says that everyone is a descendant of Adam and Eve. The Old Testament is concerned with the Jewish race and their ancestors. It wouldn't make sense for them to chronicle ancient Gentile persons.
LUKE2447: My wife says I believe in Gap theory though I had never even heard of that term until she mentioned it.
Interesting. Haven't thought of it that way before.
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