Angels and their ability to sin

[Nu-Texan]

I have been taught all my life that the Angels are basically robots with no free will and were created to worship GOD with no ability to sin. However, we do have the example of Lucifer and the 1/3 of the Angels CHOOSING to rebel against GOD and thus being thrown out of Heaven. So does that mean angels have free will also?

[shawndell]

Angels dont have forgiveness extended to them as we do so they can choose to sin but then they cant come back to the father.Angels have higher knowledge than we do and we got tricked in the garden of Eden.I think the angels would have known what they were doing when they rebelled.Now I could be wrong. So take this with a grain of salt.LOL!!

[deltaguitar]

I don't think anyone really knows.

[Nu-Texan]

The bottom line question - (re-phrased) - Do you believe angels have free will or not? and why?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Nu-Texan

The bottom line question - (re-phrased) - Do you believe angels have free will or not? and why?

OK, I'm not sure but they must have some free will because some of them rebelled against God.

[mfblume]

It is inconclusive to say 1/3 of the angels fell. We read in Rev 12 that 1/3 of the stars were thrown down by the dragon's tail, but we are not told WHEN that occurred, neither are we told they are heavenly angels. Just stars. Stars in Rev 1 were angels of the churches.

But we do read that angels lost their first estate. That can only mean they have free will. We do not know WHEN they fell or WHY. Jude only mentioned they did. And that implies lack of faithfulness.

Jude 1:6 KJV And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.


Tradition alone says 1/3 of the stars falling means heavenly angels. It is only conjecture.

[Sister Alvear]

Who are those angels in chains?

[Sister Alvear]

Jude 1:6 has always been a question in my mind...

[Nu-Texan]

Is it possible that the Angels reffered to in Jude 1:6 are the same as Referred to in Genesis 6?

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Nu-Texan

Is it possible that the Angels reffered to in Jude 1:6 are the same as Referred to in Genesis 6?

Gen 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually

I see no angels mentioned in Gen 6.