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Old 04-17-2008, 04:27 PM
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If knowing that you are going to be executed isn't reason enough to repent, then there simply will never be reason enough.
Possibly true, assuming they have heard the Gospel. But not many have, I would assume. Not the Apostolic Oneness version of it, at least. (And take your pick of which version of that you think they should hear! ) Who gets to decide which Gospel the death row inmates hear? Maybe they should hear all of them, and pick the one they like best!
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Old 04-17-2008, 04:33 PM
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Possibly true, assuming they have heard the Gospel. But not many have, I would assume. Not the Apostolic Oneness version of it, at least. (And take your pick of which version of that you think they should hear! ) Who gets to decide which Gospel the death row inmates hear? Maybe they should hear all of them, and pick the one they like best!
Getting access to death row inmates can be pretty tough, but not impossible, for religious workers.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:38 AM
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Getting access to death row inmates can be pretty tough, but not impossible, for religious workers.
Just wondering, how many death row inmates do get to hear some version of the Gospel? All the prisons (I suppose) have chaplains, and I suppose the inmates at least have the opportunity to meet with them. But I don't suppose very many chaplains are Apostolic. Are there Apostolics, other than chaplains, who are trying to get access? Are they trying hard enough?

I guess their eternal fate is determined by chance, to a large extent, just like the rest of the world.
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Hmm. Think about this: an execution cuts short the time available for hearing and responding the to Gospel. Who are we to decide when to put a halt to someone's potential salvation (from the OP etc point of view)? I would think that the standard view among OPs and others would be firmly against capital punishment, for that one reason alone!

These are my thoughts too, Tim Man!!! (not to be confused with TinMan, which is my good friend from Oz.)


Let's at least give them equal length of time to repent as they gave their innocent victims. It's not as if they are going to walk them out on the sidewalk in front of the court house and execute them on the front steps. Most of these slime bags will have years to repent. Some of you who are so soft on criminals are hard on the women at the compound in Texas who are not murders or some pastor who made a mistake and lost his church.
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Just wondering, how many death row inmates do get to hear some version of the Gospel? All the prisons (I suppose) have chaplains, and I suppose the inmates at least have the opportunity to meet with them. But I don't suppose very many chaplains are Apostolic. Are there Apostolics, other than chaplains, who are trying to get access? Are they trying hard enough?

I guess their eternal fate is determined by chance, to a large extent, just like the rest of the world.
Timmy, I'm sure you are doing your part. How many prisons have you visited.
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Old 04-21-2008, 10:08 AM
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Hmm. Think about this: an execution cuts short the time available for hearing and responding the to Gospel. Who are we to decide when to put a halt to someone's potential salvation (from the OP etc point of view)? I would think that the standard view among OPs and others would be firmly against capital punishment, for that one reason alone!

These are my thoughts too, Tim Man!!! (not to be confused with TinMan, which is my good friend from Oz.)


Let's at least give them equal length of time to repent as they gave their innocent victims. It's not as if they are going to walk them out on the sidewalk in front of the court house and execute them on the front steps. Most of these slime bags will have years to repent. Some of you who are so soft on criminals are hard on the women at the compound in Texas who are not murders or some pastor who made a mistake and lost his church.
i have to agree with you sun man, i still dont think what they think once convicted matters, if it was me, they wouldnt care, and they certainly didnt care about the victims wishes, dt
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Timmy, I'm sure you are doing your part. How many prisons have you visited.
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So, are they going to start executing all death row inmates in all States?
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not all states, in my humble opinion the lib do gooders in this country wont be happy till there is no capital punishment, they dotn think it is appropriate till ther murderers kill someone they love, really, dt
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not all states, in my humble opinion the lib do gooders in this country wont be happy till there is no capital punishment, they dotn think it is appropriate till ther murderers kill someone they love, really, dt
I used to be a proponent of the death penalty until I began to realize how many wrongfully convicted people there are. As much as I don't want to imagine a family member murdered, I could not imagine me or someone in my family wrongfully convicted and executed.
Just since the Innocence Project began doing DNA tests, they have had 216 clear cut wrongful convictions and exhonerations. That in and of itself is a big number to me...but what about the thousands of cases that have no DNA evidence. I read that two-thirds of rape and homicide cases have no DNA evidence.
We have a human, flawed system that is exacting an ultimate almost superhuman measure of justice.
It's not about political correctness for me...it's about basic right and horrifically wrong.
Life in prison (real prison...not the catered hotel and rec center that costs us so much money) should be sufficient punishment while leaving the door open for correction of mistakes.
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