Just Trying to Be a Good Father

[rgcraig]

What a hornet's nest we've stirred up!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

What a hornet's nest we've stirred up!

Lord, that's scary!!!

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Chan

But what does the BIBLE say?

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

No one seems to want that kind of discussion. I hope if ever in a situation I do what God wants and if fail, to repent and not justify it as just being a man.

Okay...let's go there...

The Bible says to train up a child in the way he should go.

Both of CS's boys have been baptized and Spirit filled...sounds like the Word to me...

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Chancellor,
I'm sure He wasn't smiling when he knocked over some tables.

But does that mean He had a temper (the sin of wrath), as you seem to have suggested?

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

No one seems to want that kind of discussion. I hope if ever in a situation I do what God wants and if fail, to repent and not justify it as just being a man.

That, I think, is so much of the problem. Too many Christians today try to justify their being part of this wicked world and to justify behaving like the world does.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Chan

See, this is part of your problem: you look for hidden meanings in what people post instead of just reading what is posted. I don't imply - ever! Respond to what I actually post instead of what you think is being implied, insinuated, etc.

Not hidden meanings. That would imply that I am not taking the comments at face value. Wouldn't you agree, even if misunderstood, we take a comment and interpret that at face value?

There's a difference between standing up for what is right (and there is no "right" outside of God's word) and violating Jesus' command to turn the other cheek. You and others here are trying to justify things that are considered acceptable in American culture instead of conforming your thinking to the word of God.

Well, I really wonder what "turning the other cheek" entails. You are very pointed and stand up for yourself when you are posting, Chancellor. And I like you so I'm not trying to be critical here, but you can come across as angry and accusing, so are you turning the other cheek or standing up for what you view as right for your opinion?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Chan

But does that mean He had a temper (the sin of wrath), as you seem to have suggested?

I guess I don't understand the difference. If He is angry, at any time, is He turning the other cheek or are you saying there are times when action supersedes the turning?

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Not hidden meanings. That would imply that I am not taking the comments at face value. Wouldn't you agree, even if misunderstood, we take a comment and interpret that at face value?

Your interpretations suggest that you're not taking comments to mean exactly what is written.

Well, I really wonder what "turning the other cheek" entails. You are very pointed and stand up for yourself when you are posting, Chancellor. And I like you so I'm not trying to be critical here, but you can come across as angry and accusing, so are you turning the other cheek or standing up for what you view as right for your opinion?

What it means is found in the specific verse of scripture in which the phrase is contained.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I guess I don't understand the difference. If He is angry, at any time, is He turning the other cheek or are you saying there are times when action supersedes the turning?

The phrase "turn the other cheek" has a specific meaning found in the verse in which the phrase is contained.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Chan

Your interpretations suggest that you're not taking comments to mean exactly what is written.

I think that when I read something I say, "I am reading you to mean" with no ulterior motive behind that.

What it means is found in the specific verse of scripture in which the phrase is contained.

Which means that to have a full understanding of any scripture you have to balance that teaching with the whole.