End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11 - Page 264

Scott Pitta · #**2631** 06-06-2015, 08:15 AM

The role of the wives of "deacons" is not a reflection of the role that other women have in the church. Deacons' wives can teach. If they can teach, so can other women.

Unless I am missing something.

Evang.Benincasa · #**2632** 06-06-2015, 08:18 AM

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Junia is a female Greek name. Junia was a woman.

If the impact of a single reference it to be minimized, then so should the passage that says that women cannot teach.

Our rule, or hermeneutic, needs to be consistent.

Brother Pita, the verse doesn't say Junia or Junias preached, it doesn't even say Andronicus preached. It just says they were both related to the Apostle Paul, were in prison with him and were Christians before he was. Just using the information that the text provides.

Evang.Benincasa · #**2633** 06-06-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

The role of the wives of "deacons" is not a reflection of the role that other women have in the church. Deacons' wives can teach. If they can teach, so can other women.

Unless I am missing something.

Brother Pita please explain how "deacon wives" can teach and lead men.

Scott Pitta · #**2634** 06-06-2015, 08:40 AM

Paul said that women can teach. Then he instructs them to teach young wives. He did not say that they could only teach young wives.

thephnxman · #**2635** 06-06-2015, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

(1) Junia is mentioned as an apostle, yet the name of their spouse, if they had one, is not mentioned.
(2) Peter was married, yet his wife is not mentioned by name anywhere in the NT.
Why ?? The NT does not say.

"Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of
note among the apostles..."

Beloved, you (or someone you know) misread the passage. Andronicus and Junia were of the
same tribe as Paul, and THEY WERE KNOWN by other apostles that preceded Paul. They were
not COUNTED among the apostles!

Maybe I missed something, but it is my understanding that women were not called into the
Ministry of apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor and teacher WITH their husbands: men,
married or not, were called and named into the Ministry. The diverse Offices of the Ministry,
through which we SERVE the Church, are to be filled by MEN.
This said, the ministry of the Church FOR THE WORLD, are filled with men AND women who
should LEARN IT, and know HOW TO WORK IT: preferably by husband and wife, if married.
I am of course referring to "...for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry,
and for the edifying of the body of Christ."

I submit that it is the Evangelist who teaches the Church how to "...work...the ministry."

Evang.Benincasa · #**2636** 06-06-2015, 08:52 AM

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Paul said that women can teach. Then he instructs them to teach young wives. He did not say that they could only teach young wives.

Please supply the verse where Paul places an addendum which states as well as young women elder sisters could teach elder men?

Scott Pitta · #**2637** 06-06-2015, 08:58 AM

Gal.3:28 there is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus,

This scripture shows us there is no gender distinction in the church.

Scott Pitta · #**2638** 06-06-2015, 09:10 AM

Titus 2:4 says women can teach. They are to teach what is good, no restrictions as to who they can teach.

Steve Epley · #**2639** 06-06-2015, 09:14 AM

SO WE CANNOT NAME ONE WOMAN PREACHER CONVERTED?

Scott Pitta · #**2640** 06-06-2015, 09:15 AM

Paul states that no only can women not teach, they must remain silent ( 1 Tim. 2:10.

But he also states they can teach and they can prophecy.

If women cannot teach, they also must remain silent.

Or, as I do, focus on the entirety of Scripture at the expense of individual passages that are not clear. Say what you will about 1 Tim. 2:10, it is not clear.