Will drinking beer send you to hell?

[Nicodemus1968]

Originally Posted by Tithesmeister

Being a drunkard will send you to hell.

Lying about tithes will too.

Drinking alcohol in moderation, will not send you to hell.

Lying about tithes in moderation will.

I’m confident that far more pastors will go to hell for lying about tithes, than there will for being drunkards. So I try to reach them.

Definition of drunkard
noun
a person who is habitually drunk.

A person occasionally drunk is ok I guess.

What about smoking cigarettes on moderation?

What about gambling in moderation?

If you ok one then you have to ok them all.

[Nicodemus1968]

[QUOTE=Tithesmeister;1582910]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

Oh brother. Now you’ve got them drinking nonalcoholic syrup and calling it wine. So when the Bible says wine, it doesn’t mean wine? How did they get drunk then?
Maybe it was a miracle? Why teach against being drunk if the wine is nonalcoholic? Maybe drunk doesn’t mean drunk?

Brother, you should study the difference in exegesis and eisegesis. Study the meanings of the two words. Ask yourself, which more accurately describes your study habits.

If wine is nonalcoholic, then where is the problem with overindulgence? Aaaand alcohol is not addiction. Some PEOPLE are addicted to alcohol. Some PEOPLE are addicted to gambling. Some PEOPLE kill people with guns.

If people weren’t addicted to gambling, what would happen to the casinos? They would eventually close, right?

You came from a family of drunkards. But you aren’t a drunkard. I’m not either. I could walk right through the liquor store without any temptation. So it isn’t the liquor that is an addiction. It is the person that has an addiction TO the liquor.

I wouldn’t advise anyone to drink that has had a problem with alcoholism. Nor would I drink in front of them. But taking his weakness and putting it on EVERYONE is not right either.

Do you believe Jesus drank wine?

Was it alcohol?

If wine is nonalcoholic, then where is the problem with overindulgence? Aaaand alcohol is not addiction. Some PEOPLE are addicted to alcohol. Some PEOPLE are addicted to gambling. Some PEOPLE kill people with guns.

Alcohol is an addiction, Gambling is an addiction, watching TV is an addiction, drugs are an addiction, pharmaceutical medication is an addiction. Now, addictions don’t jump right and grab you, you have to open that door.

[Esaias]

How is "alcohol" an addiction? It's a substance, not a condition.

And where does the Bible discuss "addiction"? It talks about those who are "given to wine" and such. It talks about how no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God. It talk- wait, there I go again looking for Scripture. Silly me. We're above all that. So I hear.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

How is "alcohol" an addiction? It's a substance, not a condition.

And where does the Bible discuss "addiction"? It talks about those who are "given to wine" and such. It talks about how no drunkard shall inherit the kingdom of God. It talk- wait, there I go again looking for Scripture. Silly me. We're above all that. So I hear.

I think I'm addicted to Ranch dressing on chicken. Also in salads. I was addicted to bacon, but I think I got over that. Also addicted to macaroni and cheese with ketchup. Still like that.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think I'm addicted to Ranch dressing on chicken. Also in salads. I was addicted to bacon, but I think I got over that. Also addicted to macaroni and cheese with ketchup. Still like that.

Mac and cheese with ketchup? I like mac and cheese with hamburger meat and diced tomatoes in it, lots of butter, lots of cheese. Mmmmmmm...

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Mac and cheese with ketchup? I like mac and cheese with hamburger meat and diced tomatoes in it, lots of butter, lots of cheese. Mmmmmmm...

Putting ketchup in mac and cheese is something I have always done. I don't even know why I ever done it in the first place. I also like eating red velvet cake in a bowl of milk.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Mac and cheese with ketchup? I like mac and cheese with hamburger meat and diced tomatoes in it, lots of butter, lots of cheese. Mmmmmmm...

Rotel man!

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I think I'm addicted to Ranch dressing on chicken. Also in salads. I was addicted to bacon, but I think I got over that. Also addicted to macaroni and cheese with ketchup. Still like that.

I’m addicted to eating. I simply cannot live without it. I’ve managed to go a few days without eating, but then I fall off the wagon. Food is addiction. If I don’t get food, I get grouchy. I start losing weight. I constantly think about food. I covet other people’s food.

Eventually I cave. I start out with a single French fry. Before I know it I’m eating cheese fries with bacon. Then I want a cheeseburger. It never stops with just a French fry. Before you know it, I want a milk shake. And it all started with a French fry. Just one. So no one should eat French fries. It never stops there.

If I can’t handle the temptation, we should just ban potatoes entirely.

Brother Nicodemus, you’re a good person I believe. I like you, I’m just mostly giving you a hard time. But I’m trying to teach you something too. I think everyone struggles with some temptation in their life. Some people struggle with alcohol. Others it’s women. Are women addiction?

Some just can’t believe the truth about tithes. They are in denial. They will say it is simply not true.

I have known men that told me that the bottle would talk to them. Did the bottle REALLY talk to them? I seriously doubt it. But they believed it. It was sad.

But the alcohol is not an addiction and it is NOT sinful. It is what you do with that alcohol.

If I rob a bank while driving a black Ford dually pickup, would you preach against black Ford pickups? Or would you preach against the sin?

I could use that same pickup to drive to church. I could carry some sinner desperately needing God with me. But you may not be able to see past the black Ford pickup, and that someone, sometime in times past used it to rob a bank, or some other sinful act.

So the same wine that gets one person drunk, can be another’s communion wine. One person sinned, while the other remembered the blood of His sacrifice. Think about it. And I don’t drink anymore than you do.



But vanilla extract is a minimum thirty five percent alcohol. By law. So be careful what you keep in the pantry.

God bless you brother.

Sincerely, in Jesus’ name.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Rotel man!

That is interesting, I might have to do that.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Rotel man!

That works, too.