Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by robert
Women who cut thier hair, wear pants and who's back is turned to me doesn't look shameful...THEY LOOK LIKE MEN...You'd think women of God would want to be percieved as women.
What do you think men looked like in the Bible days with their backs turned? In order to know if they were men, facial hair was a good idea!! Men and women wore robes as well as head coverings. They looked the same from the back also.
And since when does a woman with cut hair look like a man just because she's wearing pants? Are you that obtuse that you can't determine anything else she might be wearing to be women's clothing??? Shoes, perhaps?
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IF...that word doesn't allow permission to be something that is a shame...maybe it's your way of justifying your thoughts.
It says IF it's a shame, not that it IS a shame. It's simple language. Easily understood.
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You sound like you're trying to create an out for women who want to feel good about themselves while trying to do something that has a negative feel to it.
Not following you here. What has a negative feel to it?
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Shame is something most people would try to avoid. You want to excuse doing something that is a shame...so you can have your short hair. If you feel good shaming yourself...have at it. It don't seem right that you want to justify yourself by creating a reason for others to follow your example.
If it be a shame......you aren't reading Paul's words. Women as well as men took Nazarite vows, meaning that their heads were shaven when it was over. Shame was never attached to that. Paul never wrote that it was a shame for women to have their heads shorn or shaven, but even if he did, that hardly is speaking about women who cut their hair at all, which is what you are trying to say that Paul is saying.
Paul never mentions even once anything about a woman cutting her hair.
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne
What do you think men looked like in the Bible days with their backs turned? In order to know if they were men, facial hair was a good idea!! Men and women wore robes as well as head coverings. They looked the same from the back also.
And since when does a woman with cut hair look like a man just because she's wearing pants? Are you that obtuse that you can't determine anything else she might be wearing to be women's clothing??? Shoes, perhaps?
It says IF it's a shame, not that it IS a shame. It's simple language. Easily understood.
Not following you here. What has a negative feel to it?
If it be a shame......you aren't reading Paul's words. Women as well as men took Nazarite vows, meaning that their heads were shaven when it was over. Shame was never attached to that. Paul never wrote that it was a shame for women to have their heads shorn or shaven, but even if he did, that hardly is speaking about women who cut their hair at all, which is what you are trying to say that Paul is saying.
Paul never mentions even once anything about a woman cutting her hair.
You must love to hear your self talk, since I make no sense to you and you make no sense to me maybe it's best to end this conversation. If you get bored just talk to your self. I'm sure there will be many come to your defense...and I kinda believe that's what you enjoy about discussions. The attention you can draw to YOURSELF. Watch that pride thing... you know what the Bible says about it.
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by scotty
Let me try this again.....
HEY !!!!!!!!!! quit getting mad and trying to read crosseyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I never said I wanted to change what you were saying.....can you read the bold above from your post ...... now..........what you just said up there was this....."women who wish to keep their hair long can not feel good about themselves" My wife and daughter both adhere to the standard of keeping their hair long....yet you just said they cant feel good about it........I am asking you ....why can a woman not feel good about keeping one of the holiness standards???? Are you saying that a woman who keeps her hair long for God is supposed to feel ugly?????
Scotty, after leaving to cool off...from being called puppy boy...I confess you are right... it was a typo...I made a mistake. You sure have a way with words. You must be fun at parties.
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
Is this your way of saying don't confuse me with facts my self righteous mind is made up?
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Originally Posted by robert
You must love to hear your self talk, since I make no sense to you and you make no sense to me maybe it's best to end this conversation. If you get bored just talk to your self. I'm sure there will be many come to your defense...and I kinda believe that's what you enjoy about discussions. The attention you can draw to YOURSELF. Watch that pride thing... you know what the Bible says about it.
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Re: Old way of Holiness Standard do we need to kee
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Originally Posted by robert
You must love to hear your self talk, since I make no sense to you and you make no sense to me maybe it's best to end this conversation. If you get bored just talk to your self. I'm sure there will be many come to your defense...and I kinda believe that's what you enjoy about discussions. The attention you can draw to YOURSELF. Watch that pride thing... you know what the Bible says about it.
Translation: I can't answer your questions and refuse to read the Bible and believe it exactly as it's written. To make myself feel better, I'll blame it on you being prideful (even though that makes no sense and has nothing to do with the conversation), thus taking the heat off myself as I've run out of excuses for reading something that the Bible doesn't even say.
Yep, have a great day!
P.S. If you don't want to discuss issues on a discussion forum, perhaps you are in the wrong place. Just a suggestion...
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