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Old 05-02-2011, 10:24 PM
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You almost had me convinced that I may be remembering wrong , but I just went back and watched a few videos where he was saying just what I am saying...and he did use the word "terrorist" (gasp)

Recent or earlier? He did use the word sparingly in recent days, but for a long time he acted like it was an ugly word in Sunday School. I'll have to go back and find the occasions when he was taken to task for this. Oh, but who cares? You don't and I don't have the time to do it now. May do it later. I'm going to bed. Have a good night and a better day tomorrow.

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Old 05-02-2011, 10:40 PM
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Recent or earlier? He did use the word sparingly in recent days, but for a long time he acted like it was an ugly word in Sunday School. I'll have to go back and find the occasions when he was taken to task for this. Oh, but who cares? You don't and I don't have the time to do it now. May do it later. I'm going to bed. Have a good night and a better day tomorrow.

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Old 05-02-2011, 11:09 PM
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Renda, I still stand by my opinion that the President (calculated or otherwise) used personal pronouns too much in his narrative about what happened. However, I'm considering what would have happened if the operation had gone horribly wrong in the worst possible ways. Would we be as insistent that he not take personal blame and responsibility. Would we not hold him ultimately (and personally) responsible? What would our reaction be to a speech in which he took no personal responsibility and instead gave the credit for the failure to his advisors and those who carried out the actual mission?
I know that's the nature of being the President and that you have to be gracious in victory, but it is something to consider.
The ironic thing is that those who are most vocally opposed to him taking personal responsibility would probably be the loudest voices to attribute personal responsibility in the event of failure. It's the nature of the beast and it would happen to either side.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:01 AM
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Deacon, did you see my post about Congressman King and Vice-pres Cheney and their report on water boarding and when this special investigation began that ended in Osama's death?

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Yes. Just because OBL wasn't killed while Bush was in office doesn't mean that the groundwork that was laid down by his admin didn't play a vital role.
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Old 05-03-2011, 12:22 AM
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Prax, he never ran against the war in Afghanistan. On the contrary he ran on a platform that was very clear that that was the very necessary but neglected war that was crucial. Running against a continued, basically unwinnable war in Iraq that was costing too much in every way is not an anti-war campaign. Maybe an anti-Iraq-war-as-it-was-being-handled campaign, but not anti-war in the general sense and certainly not anti-war in connection to the war on terror (which is the relevant war for this conversation). He ran and governed in a manner that was designed to increase our efforts in this such war.
That's how I recall his rhetoric on the campaign trail. He did promise to focus on getting OBL and those who were behind 9/11. He deserves kudos for following through. It cannot be denied that without the groundwork being laid during the Bush years, this day may never have come.
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Old 05-03-2011, 05:31 AM
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Renda, I still stand by my opinion that the President (calculated or otherwise) used personal pronouns too much in his narrative about what happened. However, I'm considering what would have happened if the operation had gone horribly wrong in the worst possible ways. Would we be as insistent that he not take personal blame and responsibility. Would we not hold him ultimately (and personally) responsible? What would our reaction be to a speech in which he took no personal responsibility and instead gave the credit for the failure to his advisors and those who carried out the actual mission?
I know that's the nature of being the President and that you have to be gracious in victory, but it is something to consider.
The ironic thing is that those who are most vocally opposed to him taking personal responsibility would probably be the loudest voices to attribute personal responsibility in the event of failure. It's the nature of the beast and it would happen to either side.
You know as well as we do if it had failed, he had another speech on the telle.. that had a lot of we's in it.
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Old 05-03-2011, 07:19 AM
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The only fault is Bush couldn't get it done in seven years. Mr commander in chief Obama got it done in less than 3 yrs.

The difference between these two, Obama put someone in the CIA who got it done. President Obama gave a one word order "KILL" unlike the "dead or alive" order from Bush.


WASHINGTON (AP) - The White House counterterrorism adviser says that the U.S. forces who killed Osama bin Laden would have taken him alive if they had the opportunity. Adviser John Brennan said that the White House thought bin Laden would resist but that there was a "remote" possibility he could be captured alive. Brennan told reporters at the White House Monday that the contingency was prepared for.


http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1

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Renda, I still stand by my opinion that the President (calculated or otherwise) used personal pronouns too much in his narrative about what happened. However, I'm considering what would have happened if the operation had gone horribly wrong in the worst possible ways. Would we be as insistent that he not take personal blame and responsibility. Would we not hold him ultimately (and personally) responsible? What would our reaction be to a speech in which he took no personal responsibility and instead gave the credit for the failure to his advisors and those who carried out the actual mission?
I know that's the nature of being the President and that you have to be gracious in victory, but it is something to consider.
The ironic thing is that those who are most vocally opposed to him taking personal responsibility would probably be the loudest voices to attribute personal responsibility in the event of failure. It's the nature of the beast and it would happen to either side.
I understand what you are saying, but I'm a fair person and I wouldn't blame him if it went wrong either. We've been looking for OBL for over ten years now -- as a united country. Thank goodness that it did go as good as could be expected and the lose of lives were to a minimum.

Lord, who knows there might be some that would still blame Bush if something bad went wrong - lol!
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I understand what you are saying, but I'm a fair person and I wouldn't blame him if it went wrong either. We've been looking for OBL for over ten years now -- as a united country. Thank goodness that it did go as good as could be expected and the lose of lives were to a minimum.

Lord, who knows there might be some that would still blame Bush if something bad went wrong - lol!
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