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[Steve Epley]

There is NOT a Jew on the face of the earth. Ask Benne-Burk-Blume tell every Arab you see. Tell them they can loosen the towel on their heads.

[StMark]

Bro Epley,

I detected a bad spirit from those folks on that thread yesterday.

Let's get to the core of it - they're anti semitic. They don't like Jews and they don't support them as God's chosen people like we do. I fear for people like this

you're right and they're all wrong in my estimation.

[Digging4Truth]

No sir... the thread said that there are plenty of Jews around.

The thread simply correctly defined them as a group of people of like faith.

[Falla39]

I consider myself a New Testament, circumcised in heart, Jew, in His Blood!
Romans 2:29

Not to offend anyone!

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by StMark

Bro Epley,

I detected a bad spirit from those folks on that thread yesterday.

Let's get to the core of it - they're anti semitic. They don't like Jews and they don't support them as God's chosen people like we do. I fear for people like this

you're right and they're all wrong in my estimation.

ST.Mark just because someone don't see being a JEW as matter of race does not make them ANTI-SEMITIC or hate Jews.
To Judaism ,all Christians are considered ANTI-SEMITIC does that make it so ?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Falla39

I consider myself a New Testament, circumcised in heart, Jew, in His Blood!
Romans 2:29

Sis Falla,
I do too.
It's my opinion that the Apostle Paul refers to the church as the "Israel of God' in Galatians 6:16.
I also believe that there are many who are descended from Abraham according to the flesh or who have united themselves with the monotheistic religion of Abraham and Moses and even later "Jewish" teachers who can still be considered "Jews" or "Israelites."

[edjen01]

I think the more important question is....who cares???

since it does not play a role in my relationship with Jesus Christ....why would I bother with such nonsense.

[Falla39]

Originally Posted by Sam

Sis Falla,
I do too.
It's my opinion that the Apostle Paul refers to the church as the "Israel of God' in Galatians 6:16.
I also believe that there are many who are descended from Abraham according to the flesh or who have united themselves with the monotheistic religion of Abraham and Moses and even later "Jewish" teachers who can still be considered "Jews" or "Israelites."

Thanks, Bro. Sam,

The LORD knows those that are His! We don't know everything,
so we must trust Him as the only "Know IT ALL".

[Scott Hutchinson]

No matter what someone's lineage is without the blood Of Jesus and His grace we are all lost.
No race is superior or inferior to another.
God loves all people the same.
Even if someone could trace their lineage back to Abraham they would not be loved anymore or less by Jesus Christ.
Jews are not Christ-killers, the Jews in the NT. were punished for their rejection of Christ,but so will anyone else who rejects Christ.
God has not rejected the Jews,the Jews in the bible were cut off from Christ because of their personal unbelief,as with anyone that rejects Christ,unbelief cuts anyone off from Christ,faith brings us to God.
Whosoever will let them come to Christ and His saving grace.

[Sam]

a dispensationalist type teaching about Israel

ISRAEL
PAST, PRESENT AND FUTURE

ISRAEL'S PAST ELECTION

The Jewish nation is the only nation whose origin can be traced with any degree of accuracy. Nobody can name the first English person, first Swede, first Chinese, etc. The origin of some nations is wrapped in legend but Jews and Gentiles alike agree that Abraham was the first “Hebrew” and that the Jewish people descended from him.

Abraham, Acts 7:2-5; Genesis 12:1-7; 13:14-18; 15:1-21; 17:1-8

Isaac, Genesis 26:1-6; 17:15-21

Jacob/Israel, Genesis 28:1-15; 32:22-32; 35:1-15

Everlasting covenant, Psalm 105:1-12; Jeremiah 31:35-37


ISRAEL'S PRESENT SUSPENSION

Deuteronomy 28:36-37, 64-67
John 1:1-18; Matthew 21:33-46; 23:29-39; 24:1-51

Don’t you believe that the church has replaced Israel, and that God has no covenant with modern Israel? I do not believe in “replacement” theology. God still has a land covenant with natural Israel. That covenant with Abraham has not been broken. Yes, I believe the Church is spiritual Israel under a New Covenant . But the New Covenant does not do away with His everlasting land covenant with Israel.... So I believe in two Israels: natural and spiritual. All Jews must come to Christ by faith in His shed blood. Spiritual Israel is His holy invisible Church. God’s chosen people are composed of all believers in Christ. Yet natural Israel maintains its chosen place in modern history as rightful husbandman of the land promised to them. David Wilkerson 3/25/02

ISRAEL'S FUTURE RESTORATION

“Political Israel was born May 14, 1948 but was born in unbelief. Rigtheous Israel will be born after travail in the Tribulation.” a note in my Bible from an unknown source

Acts 15:14-18 with Amos 9:8-15
Jeremiah 3:18; 24:6; 16:14-15; 30:1-24
Isaiah 11:1-16; 43:5-9; 11:5-13
Hosea 2:14-23: 6:1-3
Zephaniah 3:14-20
Ezekiel 22:17-22 regathered in anger
Ezekiel 36:16-38 hearts changed
Ezekiel 37:1-28 spiritual resurrection
Zechariah chapters 12, 13, 14 Israel’s repentance, restoration, ruling on the earth



Persecution of the Jews

AD 50 30,000 killed in Jerusalem by the Romans
AD 66 persecuted by Gessius Florius, Roman Governor of Judah, 40,000 killed
AD 70 Roman army of 100,000 seige, 1,000,000 killed, 97,000 captured
AD 135 Hadrian devastated Jerusalem, 580, 000 killed, Temple site plowed (Micah 3:12) people scattered throughout the world
AD 1020 All Jews banished from England
AD 1096 “holy war” in Europe, Jews must be baptized or executed
Henry II ordered the Jews to pay for his crusade
AD 1190 York Castle, 500-1000 Jews besieged, they killed one anothrer, set on fire
AD 1272 England claimed to own the Jews and whatever they possessed. Then 16,550 were driven from England by Edward I
AD 1306 100,000 Jews stripped of wealth and possessions and driven from France
AD 1348-50 Black death in Europe blamed on Jews, Spanish Inquisition
AD 1492 All Jews banished from Spain
AD 1560 Banished from Prague
AD 1683 Jews ordered out of all French colonies
AD 1723 Louis XV gave Jews permission to own property
AD 1776 U.S. Declaration of Independence
AD 1933-45 Persecution and death in Europe by Nazis


Some Dates in Jewish History

1445 BC the Exodus
1405 BC entrance into Canaan
1043-1011 King Saul
1011-971 King David
971-931 King Solomon
931 BC the kingdom splits into Israel/Samaria (northern) and Judah (southern)
722 BC Northern Kingdom defeated by Assyria, many carried away captive
606 BC Southern Kingdom attacked by Babylon, many carried away captive
587 BC Temple and Jerusalem destroyed
539 BC Babylon defeated by Media Persia
538 BC Jews allowed to return under Zerubbabel to rebuild Temple
515 BC Temple built
476 BC Esther became Queen of Persia
458 BC more return to Israel under Ezrsa
445 BC commission to rebuild Jerusalem given to Nehemiah
20 BC Herod begins to rebuild the Temple
30 AD death of Jesus
70 AD Herod’s Temple destroyed
1897 First Zionist Congress in Switzerland
1914 90,000 Jews in Palestine
1935 300,000 Jews in Palestine
11/2/17 Balfour Declaration established Palestine as a Jewish homeland
5/14/48 Israel became an independent country
June, 1967 Israel controls Jerusalem
2006 5,313,800 Jews in Israel