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06-16-2008, 10:47 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by Oneness Man
Luke was a physician but it doesn't say he made medications though. Luke went to heaven because he prayed for the sick and they were healed.
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Where does the Bible say that?
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06-16-2008, 10:52 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by Rico
Carp, the word means what it means and there is no denying the connection between pharmakeia and whipping up concoctions to treat illness. Just because it's done in a laboratory with chemicals doesn't change the fact that it's still the same thing.
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Amen Bro!!! Preach it!!!
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06-16-2008, 10:52 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by Oneness Man
Where are physicans that gave medications in Old Testament times and what were the medications did they give?
Witchcraft has to do with more than the spirit world according to the Bible.
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The art of compounding herbs, spices, etc was practiced by both the good and the bad. It was used by magicians, physicians and pharmacists. The art was practiced to formulate the incence used in altar of incence the holy place. ( Ex 30:25; v 35; 37:29 ; Ecc 10:1)
It is referred to as the art or work of the apothecary.
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06-16-2008, 10:53 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by clgustaveson
You can't be so stubborn there are MANY words that have the same root but mean entirely different things. Cognates even further illustrate this point... just because the Bible uses a word with the same root doesn't mean there is any connection with a modern word of a completely different meaning.
The fact that it was translated as something different expresses the difference in translation. This is why words have multiple meanings where some of the meanings are entirely unrelated and I fail to see a connection at all with idol worship and witchcraft to pharmacology.
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Oh the denial. Oh the denial. It is understandable that you would deny it because it is the field that you're in.
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06-16-2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by clgustaveson
Quit being such a stuck up rude punk.... I am not talking to you and if you would take your head our of your butt and realize there are more intelligent people on this forum can learn from your stupidity.
God bless
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Why do you choose to be rude to a Brother? That is so ungodly.
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06-16-2008, 10:55 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
Is a mixture of oil and alcohol a "medication?" Would that count?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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06-16-2008, 10:57 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by Neubill
It is disappointing that the thread starter is ignoring my request for clarification. Though personally offended by the quoted portion from Post #6, I am reminded that we are to be slow to anger and slow to speak.
I have spent my career in pharmacy since 1991. Two pharmacies, tens of thousands of prescriptions dispensed to people, only to find out that I have been engaging in "(by extension)" magic and sorcery. Allow me to express my personal thanks to the author of this lovely thread.
The LORD's requirement for producing the Anointing oil for the priests and the incense for the Altar of Incense were satisfied by the skills in our profession. We're called Apothecaries.
Our profession has the distinction of being the most trusted profession among consumers. When your doctor can't be bothered, who do people ask for advice? The pharmacist, the shaman of the modern world.
Do your muscles hurt? Do you have a headache?
Need a sunblock? Do you have minor sunburn because you didn't use any?
Perhaps a little acid indigestion from eating the wrong food on Father's Day?
Constipation? Diarrhea?
Do you have a cut and want to make sure it doesn't get infected?
A little cough perhaps?
Maybe you've picked up that nasty flu bug and you just want a little help with the symptoms?
Do you have dry eyes? Do you have dry skin?
My profession has developed remedies for all of the above and they're available without needing authorization from a physician. If you have any (or all...) of the above problems and you don't mind the remedy being developed by a shaman, no worries.
I'll be glad to direct ya to something that'll fix what ails ya.
If you're interested in avoiding using those things and you'd prefer a natural or homeopathic remedy, you're in business, since they're produced by us shamans as well. Our profession wrote the book.
May The LORD, the revealer of answers to mysteries, bless us all and grant us both revelation and perspective.
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I have already answered.
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06-16-2008, 10:58 PM
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
"Be angry and sin not."
I don't think that calling names and insulting others reflects Christian character. And telling me to "sit down and shut up" doesn't work very well.
Consider your posts reported.
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It shows an ungodly attitude, which is sin.
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06-16-2008, 10:59 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
People need to realize that "drug" use was an occult practice.
Medicine for making people better is a scientific practice. There are no evil spirits being consulted etc etc
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
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06-16-2008, 11:01 PM
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Matthew 7:6
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Re: Witchcraft = medication
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Originally Posted by clgustaveson
...there are MANY words that have the same root but mean entirely different things. Cognates even further illustrate this point... just because the Bible uses a word with the same root doesn't mean there is any connection with a modern word of a completely different meaning.
The fact that it was translated as something different expresses the difference in translation. This is why words have multiple meanings where some of the meanings are entirely unrelated and I fail to see a connection at all with idol worship and witchcraft to pharmacology.
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This is the kind of erroneous conclusions people can fall into when they find a Greek word that is related to a modern day word (even if the original word has multiple meaning in different contexts)... and then try to apply one of the meanings of the original word to the modern day usage of the related modern-day word... and then try to create a link between the 2 very different word meanings (old and modern) by using the word linkage as a bridge between the two totally unrelated meanings.
Not only is it a terribly unsound practice, but that kind of exegesis can provide, and has provided in some cases, an undergirding [and badly flawed] foundation for some of the worst false doctrines we have today.
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