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[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I think diplomacy should be used to stall 'em before we carpet bomb 'em. hehehe

if only you really believed this, how sane you would be, dt

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

keep listening as long as the dangerous toys are locked up, lol

But...I...shhhh....I know where the KEY IS. HAHAHHAHAHA

[DividedThigh]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

But...I...shhhh....I know where the KEY IS. HAHAHHAHAHA

well you make me laugh , good for you, i needed that, lol

Originally Posted by DividedThigh

if only you really believed this, how sane you would be, dt

As a Christian I couldn't support carpet bombing for real. Dude...this world isn't my home and Jesus ain't gonna let anything happen that doesn't pass his desk first.

I don't see how war is consistant with the Christian ethos. One is either a Kingdom minded Christian or a nationalist worldling.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by tstew

Our actions in Iraq have made the situation in Iran even more threatening (I don't have time to get into the whole Sunni Shiite thing again, but you must have a fundamental understanding of all the sectarian dynamics in that region).
I'm saying that if we get to a place that tough diplomacy as an alternative or even a prelude to war is outrageous, we are in a dangerous place.

I fully understand the Sunni/Shiite dynamic and can give you the battles and dates they were fought a thousand years ago that caused it if you like.

and I am saying that tough deplomacy is t aking place NOW and what Obama is offering is the opposite.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Grasshopper

I think diplomacy should be used to stall 'em before we carpet bomb 'em. hehehe

"Cogito, ergo sum" you defy it.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by tstew

Ferd, you can't have it both ways. You can't scour Obama's past to demonstrate bad judgement because of who he associates with...but then when discussing bad judgements based specifically on bad judgements made say what got us here doesn't matter.

ahh, but I dont want it both ways.

Obamas past is prelude to an Obama presidency

George Bush's past is NOT prelude to John McCains future!


but John McCains past IS!

[tstew]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I fully understand the Sunni/Shiite dynamic and can give you the battles and dates they were fought a thousand years ago that caused it if you like.

and I am saying that tough deplomacy is t aking place NOW and what Obama is offering is the opposite.

Well then I pray this tough diplomacy (I don't understand how it's diplomacy if we refuse to talk at all), but either way I pray that it works because that region is more unstable and dangerous than it has been in a while.

Originally Posted by Ferd

"Cogito, ergo sum" you defy it.

Ferd if you're not willing to speak English go home!

[DividedThigh]

who died and made you the teacher grass, go home, lol