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07-30-2007, 10:53 AM
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I think Suber leaving the UPC while he was at his peak in it may encourage some other major or medium / major mods or libs to go ahead and leave when it does not pass.
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07-30-2007, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Barb
I have neither insider info or stake, as far as licensing and all goes, but I do have an opinion...
In my inner beings I feel a shift coming...wouldn't necessarily call it a 'split', but I do feel a change, and it won't be over television.
It will be over doctrine...
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interesting, what do you base that speculation over???
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07-30-2007, 10:57 AM
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Bro. Y, I'll never forget...
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Originally Posted by CC1
I think Suber leaving the UPC while he was at his peak in it may encourage some other major or medium / major mods or libs to go ahead and leave when it does not pass.
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do you suspect most will go independant, join up with ALJC, or that some other new organization will be formed??
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"Rules without relationship lead to rebellion." Dr. James Dobson
"You don't need a license to preach, or teach, or win souls." RonB
"In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)
Never tell a young person that anything cannot be done. God may have been waiting centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing. ~ John Andrew Holmes
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07-30-2007, 10:59 AM
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but made himself of no reputation
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Originally Posted by Pastor Poster
Disclaimer: This is just my opinion, and I have no insider information.
On September 28th, 2007, resolution four will go down in flames. Conservatives will win the battle in convincing fashion and tighten their hold on the org.
In the days leading up to this vote, and those immediately following, stories of lib/mod defections will become commonplace. They see the handwriting on the wall.
Again, this is just my opinion.
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If there is bona fide alternatives like NCO emerging as a new construct of a fellowship network rather than an organization with fidelity statements, all parties could be well served by the timing of things.
I am hoping your 'spidey senses' are accurate. Whatever is needed to move away from the silliness of human engagement defined by UL-Lib-Mod-Con-UC would serve unity among the membership within God's anointed body.
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07-30-2007, 11:00 AM
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I keep hearing about shifts and changes. They're inevitable really.
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07-30-2007, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
I keep hearing about shifts and changes. They're inevitable really.
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that is true sis, and sometimes for the better, dt 
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07-30-2007, 11:03 AM
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Bro. Y, I'll never forget...
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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
wouldnt be surprised at all, the head in the sand crowd has ruled for many years my brother, dt
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thats quite a slam on many pioneer preachers who have poured their lives into building what we currently have now.... its also unfair to say that anyone who opposes TV has their "head in the sand"....
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"Rules without relationship lead to rebellion." Dr. James Dobson
"You don't need a license to preach, or teach, or win souls." RonB
"In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)
Never tell a young person that anything cannot be done. God may have been waiting centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing. ~ John Andrew Holmes
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07-30-2007, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Malvaro
interesting, what do you base that speculation over???
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I have no proof of this other than my own feelings, Mal...
I was speaking with an elderly Saint this morning, and I said that I wondered how many there are in the UPCI who do not believe one must speak in tongues to be rapture ready.
When pinned down for a definitive answer, I wonder what the response would be?!
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07-30-2007, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
I keep hearing about shifts and changes. They're inevitable really.
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You are probably right...
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07-30-2007, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Felicity
I keep hearing about shifts and changes. They're inevitable really.
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You don't have to have the Gifts in operation to know that. 
It is, like you said, inevitable.
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And the LORD took me as I followed the flock, and the LORD said unto me, Go, prophesy unto my people Israel."
--Amos 7:14-15
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