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Old 07-22-2007, 04:57 PM
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IMO, it's much like a wedding ring. If you want to take it off, you will.

It's a heart issue.
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Old 07-22-2007, 04:58 PM
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Brother, how many Christian churches do you know of that have the youngsters wear purity rings? Very few. The practice is not a common one among Christians. The veil among the Islamic folks is fairly common.

To answer your question, I don't see what more a ring could do to help someone keep their virginity. If a made up mind isn't enough I am sure a ring would not make a bit of difference. Still, I can see how the youth could get into a practice like that.
How many Christian churches practice baptism in Jesus name? If we take the whole of those claiming to be Christian churches that number would be few also. That is beside the point.

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Old 07-22-2007, 05:00 PM
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Silver Ring Thing is a United States-based sexual abstinence program which encourages young adults to remain celibate until marriage. Based on conservative Christian theology and until recently funded by the U.S. federal government, SRT uses rock concert-style events in an attempt to appeal to 21st century teenagers.


SRT events feature high-energy music, club-style lighting and sound, music videos, sketch comedy, and a faith-based abstinence message. During the gathering, participants commit to a vow of sexual abstinence until marriage by purchasing rings.


Shortly before the end of the show, they receive their silver rings inscribed with Bible verses, which are usually worn on the third finger of the left hand. The verse is First Thessalonians 4:3-4 and it states "God wants you to be holy, so you should keep clear of all sexual sin. Then each of you will control your body and live in holiness and honor." The rings are tokens of their vow, a reminder of their decision to remain celibate. The rings also are a way to signal to others that they are pledged to celibacy. After they put on their rings, they take a vow to remain abstinent.



Silver Ring Thing was created in 1995 by Denny Pattyn, an evangelical Christian youth minister from Yuma, Arizona, as a way to combat what he saw as rising rates of STDs and pregnancies amongst teenagers, as well as a way to protect teens from what founders saw as American culture's unhealthy obsession with sex, which, according to Pattyn, was a byproduct of the “promiscuity [of] the sexual revolution of the ‘60s”.


In 2000, Pattyn became Executive Director of the John Guest Evangelistic Team of Sewickley, Pennsylvania, and SRT became part of the national outreach of the John Guest Team.


SRT claims to have won pledges of chastity of more than 25,000 young adults since its inception, and Pattyn has stated that SRT plans to have rings on the fingers of 2 million by 2010.


Initially, SRT was funded entirely by private sources, but beginning in 2003, SRT began receiving money from the federal faith-based initiatives program. As of 2004, SRT has received more than US $1,100,000 in U.S. government federal funding.


In 2004, SRT began expanding operations into the United Kingdom, with mixed results. While some teens in the UK embraced the message of abstinence, others rejected and ridiculed SRT for being anti-sex and unrealistic. Critics have stated that it seems unlikely that abstinence programmes will attract widespread support in the UK because of the UK's different attitude to sexuality, but the group's Assistant National Director for the UK, Denise Pfeiffer says there is a real need for such a movement in the UK to curb what she sees as the ever-increasing rates of sexually transmitted infections and teenage pregnancies, both of which she claims are the highest in Western Europe. Pfeiffer, incidentally, is a lingerie model.[1]


In 2005, the American Civil Liberties Union sued the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services because it believed SRT used tax dollars to promote Christianity. On August 22, the department suspended SRT's $75,000 federal grant until it submitted a "corrective action plan."
In 2006, Silver Ring Thing decided not to continue using federal funding and to continue with their message.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silver_Ring_Thing
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:01 PM
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How many Christian churches practice baptism in Jesus name? If we take the whole of those claiming to be Christian churches that number would be few also. That is beside the point.

Ill post what the thing is in the next post for Dave and others
Baptism is an accepted and well known Christian practice, Prax. Trying to compare baptism and someone wearing a purity ring is ridiculous, in my opinion. The school makes allowances for recognized religrious symbols, such as the crucifix. A purity ring falls way short of being a recognized Christian symbol.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:01 PM
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We gave them out to the youth group in times past after doing an extensive teaching on sexual purity. Those teens that were willing to commit to purity until marraige got a ring and it was presented in a ceremony in the youth chapel with their parents present. It does tend to make a young person think twice when they are tempted and they can look down and see that reminder of their vow. They were for both boys & girls.
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I was trying to be absurdly amusing.....Guess I should have used a
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:09 PM
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We gave them out to the youth group in times past after doing an extensive teaching on sexual purity. Those teens that were willing to commit to purity until marraige got a ring and it was presented in a ceremony in the youth chapel with their parents present. It does tend to make a young person think twice when they are tempted and they can look down and see that reminder of their vow. They were for both boys & girls.
Good grief! If the fact that they have allowed themselves to get turned on to the point that they are considering having sex a ring will do zilch to stop them. What about instilling some self control into teenagers? What about bringing them to the point that their minds are made up to NOT have sex until they get married? None of this is powerful enough? We have to give them a ring to remind them?

You want to know what my 15 year old son tells me? He says he isn't even going to look for a girlfriend until he gets a good job. He has completely put the thought of girls out of his head until he reaches the point that he will be responsible enough to handle it. That is wisdom. All I have ever told him regarding girls was that he needs to be smart and that he needs to learn from his Dad's mistakes. The last thing he wants is a bunch of children before he's ready. That's the kind of thing we need to be teaching our children.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:15 PM
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Good grief! If the fact that they have allowed themselves to get turned on to the point that they are considering having sex a ring will do zilch to stop them. What about instilling some self control into teenagers? What about bringing them to the point that their minds are made up to NOT have sex until they get married? None of this is powerful enough? We have to give them a ring to remind them?

You want to know what my 15 year old son tells me? He says he isn't even going to look for a girlfriend until he gets a good job. He has completely put the thought of girls out of his head until he reaches the point that he will be responsible enough to handle it. That is wisdom. All I have ever told him regarding girls was that he needs to be smart and that he needs to learn from his Dad's mistakes. The last thing he wants is a bunch of children before he's ready. That's the kind of thing we need to be teaching our children.
Hellooooooooooooo.....we do teach these things too. But having this ring is like having a Bible sitting on the car seat. You would think twice before you got into an uncontrollable situation.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:21 PM
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Hellooooooooooooo.....we do teach these things too. But having this ring is like having a Bible sitting on the car seat. You would think twice before you got into an uncontrollable situation.
get them a bible then.didnt the same Peter that preached acts 2:38 preach agaist rings in the book of Peter.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:20 PM
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get them a bible then.didnt the same Peter that preached acts 2:38 preach agaist rings in the book of Peter.
Wow, how could I have missed THAT????
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