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06-11-2015, 01:27 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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5 Philip went down to a city in Samaria and proclaimed the Messiah there.
6 When the crowds heard Philip and saw the signs he performed, they all paid close attention to what he said.
12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
14 When the apostles in Jerusalem heard that Samaria had accepted the word of God, they sent Peter and John to Samaria.
15 When they arrived, they prayed for the new believers there that they might receive the Holy Spirit,
16 because the Holy Spirit had not yet come on any of them; they had simply been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
17 Then Peter and John placed their hands on them, and they received the Holy Spirit.
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First and foremost, when preaching to the unsaved, the Apostles preached the exaltation of Christ, that because of his obedience unto the death of the cross God had exalted him,made him Lord, and vested all authority to save in him alone. They always exalted Jesus while most modern evangelism exalts the SINNER! We say, "Jesus love YOU. Jesus died for YOU! YOU YOU YOU!" The Apostles did not do this. In Acts you see no mention of them telling anybody, "Jesus loves you." They preached the kingdom and declared that the kingdom was connected completely with the name of Jesus Christ.
Keith Green said it best....
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06-11-2015, 09:22 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
There is no difference between the Kingdom OF GOD and the Kingdom OF HEAVEN.
They are synonymous terms.
Mat 19:23-24 KJV Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. (24) And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
There is not any more than this single era of the church in the future. After this is eternity. The "...of Heaven" and "...of God" dichotomy is not biblical, but is read into the bible to allow for more than one era after the cross.
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06-11-2015, 09:29 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
Jesus is not just the door to the Kingdom, and then we depart from Jesus. The Kingdom is the cross through and through to the end.
Israel came out of Egypt by the blood, and they entered the Kingdom Promised land by the blood. The blood on the mercy seat of the ark of the covenant opened up the Jordan. Rahab was in Jericho and had a personal passover sort of experience. the red cord in her window was like the blood around the doors in Egypt. The cross is EVERYTHING and is NEVER abandoned later as a means of continued advance into the Kingdom!
Romans 6 teaches that victory over sin, well after we're saved, is by the blood... knowing we died with Christ and are resurrected and seated with Him.
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06-11-2015, 10:40 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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Originally Posted by mfblume
Jesus is not just the door to the Kingdom, and then we depart from Jesus. The Kingdom is the cross through and through to the end.
Israel came out of Egypt by the blood, and they entered the Kingdom Promised land by the blood. The blood on the mercy seat of the ark of the covenant opened up the Jordan. Rahab was in Jericho and had a personal passover sort of experience. the red cord in her window was like the blood around the doors in Egypt. The cross is EVERYTHING and is NEVER abandoned later as a means of continued advance into the Kingdom!
Romans 6 teaches that victory over sin, well after we're saved, is by the blood... knowing we died with Christ and are resurrected and seated with Him.
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Seated WITH Him in heavenly places.
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06-12-2015, 03:03 AM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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Jesus preached and commanded His disciples to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom. Most churches today only
preach the Gospel of Salvation. You do not often hear a message on the Gospel of the Kingdom.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Gospel of Salvation is not found anywhere in scripture. Why then have we
changed from Jesus' command to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom, to preaching only the Gospel
of Salvation? And what are the differences between the Gospel of the Kingdom and the Gospel of Salvation?
I found an excellent comparison within an article by Charisma Magazine:
" Gospel of Salvation
Focus: Evangelism/salvation
Eternal, heavenly focus
Addresses only the soul
“Rapture escape” mentality
Sacred vs. secular—dualism
Goal: Transaction, “win the next soul”
Gospel of the Kingdom
Focus: Taking dominion
Material, social, earthly, secular
Addresses soul and body
“Possess the land” mentality
Impacts all aspects of society
Goal: Influence through servanthood, godly leadership, active faith
This diagram shows the contrast between the gospel of salvation and the gospel of the kingdom. One is
passive; the other is active, with a goal of taking possession, as Joshua was instructed."
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"Except a man be born again (begotten of God), he cannot SEE the kingdom of God."
There are NOT two separate gospels, except maybe to them that have not SEEN (perceived;
understood; discerned) just what is God's kingdom. If that is the case, then they might not
have ENTERED INTO His kingdom! That leads them to attempt to self-justify themselves into
God's kingdom without the remission of sin through the waters of baptism, and dissuading
the Holy Spirit experience for millions who would otherwise be saved and ENTER INTO
God's kingdom.
Jesus came preaching the kingdom wherein He would be King: a kingdom that no one could
attain, much less ENTER INTO! The kingdom was based upon the promise that if one
repented, and elected to have his sins remitted, then he would receive the PROMISE of the
Holy Spirit, and ENTER INTO the kingdom to conquer and hold the kingdom.
"Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot ENTER INTO the kingdom of God."
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06-12-2015, 03:25 AM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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Originally Posted by Originalist
First and foremost, when preaching to the unsaved, the Apostles preached the exaltation of Christ, that because of his obedience unto the death of the cross God had exalted him,made him Lord, and vested all authority to save in him alone. They always exalted Jesus while most modern evangelism exalts the SINNER! We say, "Jesus love YOU. Jesus died for YOU! YOU YOU YOU!" The Apostles did not do this. In Acts you see no mention of them telling anybody, "Jesus loves you." They preached the kingdom and declared that the kingdom was connected completely with the name of Jesus Christ.
Keith Green said it best....
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Wow I must say you are spot on here!
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06-12-2015, 06:58 AM
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First and foremost, when preaching to the unsaved, the Apostles preached the exaltation of Christ, that because of his obedience unto the death of the cross God had exalted him,made him Lord, and vested all authority to save in him alone. They always exalted Jesus while most modern evangelism exalts the SINNER! We say, "Jesus love YOU. Jesus died for YOU! YOU YOU YOU!" The Apostles did not do this. In Acts you see no mention of them telling anybody, "Jesus loves you." They preached the kingdom and declared that the kingdom was connected completely with the name of Jesus Christ.
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06-13-2015, 08:34 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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Originally Posted by thephnxman
"Except a man be born again (begotten of God), he cannot SEE the kingdom of God."
There are NOT two separate gospels, except maybe to them that have not SEEN (perceived;
understood; discerned) just what is God's kingdom. If that is the case, then they might not
have ENTERED INTO His kingdom! That leads them to attempt to self-justify themselves into
God's kingdom without the remission of sin through the waters of baptism, and dissuading
the Holy Spirit experience for millions who would otherwise be saved and ENTER INTO
God's kingdom.
Jesus came preaching the kingdom wherein He would be King: a kingdom that no one could
attain, much less ENTER INTO! The kingdom was based upon the promise that if one
repented, and elected to have his sins remitted, then he would receive the PROMISE of the
Holy Spirit, and ENTER INTO the kingdom to conquer and hold the kingdom.
"Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot ENTER INTO the kingdom of God."
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Amen the KINGDOM CAME, There's not a different one coming.
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06-13-2015, 09:52 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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06-13-2015, 09:53 PM
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Re: Gospel of the Kingdom vs Gospel of Salvation
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People divide things into two gospels, two kingdoms, two times satan is judged and two times Jesus is enthroned! lol
It's just ONE.
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