Interesting Article on Same Sex Marriage

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by n david

"It takes a village..." This is why the government would love this to pass. That's its end game.

Exactly! But looking beyond that and the lives it will effect is sad.

[ApostolicKitty]

I can't help but wonder how much trouble she is going to get in from publishing her book and this article considering what she said they do. I am sure someone in Canada will consider both offensive.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty

I can't help but wonder how much trouble she is going to get in from publishing her book and this article considering what she said they do. I am sure someone in Canada will consider both offensive.

I was thinking the same thing. LOL!

[n david]

Originally Posted by ApostolicKitty

I can't help but wonder how much trouble she is going to get in from publishing her book and this article considering what she said they do. I am sure someone in Canada will consider both offensive.

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I was thinking the same thing. LOL!

It crossed my mind as well. Both the website on which she published her article, and the publisher of her book are based in the US, so I doubt anything could be done to her because of that.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

One thing to note, IMO, is that Canada has government dominated healthcare. That takes, in itself, major control over an individual's life before your freedom of speech, which was this Administration's goal.

You cant possibly believe anything you just wrote?

[GISG]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

This article brings to light the fact of what happens when the gay agenda has been accepted as the norm. I am glad that this woman is speaking up about being raised in a gay home, and how that has affected her life.

Their agenda is the destruction of all God holds dear, as they follow the spirit of death and lies.
I've spoken with a man whose career is in the mental health field and has much experience with the homosexual/lesbian lifestyle.
He says they're a "chocolate sundae of crazy" and the whipped cream and cherry on top are the transgenders.
Society has no idea what they are unleashing.
This is the first time in human history marriage is being re-defined. It takes at least one full generation (40 years) to understand the impact it will have, as it takes with all societal experiments.
As it was in the days of Noah...only worse, it looks like.

[ILG]

After the Ball: How America Will Conquer It’s
Fear and Hatred of Gays in the 90’s


http://www.parentsofgaychildren.org/...hard_Cohen.pdf

[GISG]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

You cant possibly believe anything you just wrote?

And why wouldn't he? You take too many liberties.

[Aquila]

Pastors are going to have to insulate themselves from the possibility of lawsuits. I'm not sure if anyone has heard of the "Marriage Pledge". Essentially, pastors are refusing to function as agents of the state and are conducting purely "Christian" marriages and allowing couples to seek civil recognition on their own. Part of the pledge reads:

"Therefore, in our roles as Christian ministers, we, the undersigned, commit ourselves to disengaging civil and Christian marriage in the performance of our pastoral duties. We will no longer serve as agents of the state in marriage. We will no longer sign government-provided marriage certificates. We will ask couples to seek civil marriage separately from their church-related vows and blessings. We will preside only at those weddings that seek to establish a Christian marriage in accord with the principles articulated and lived out from the beginning of the Church’s life."

This is more akin to the Quaker view of marriage. Here are some excerpts from "Faith and Practice": "Quaker Marriage Procedure"...

"Marriage is a sacred commitment of two people to love one another in faithful partnership with the expectation that the relationship will mature and be mutually enriching. Friends know that marriage depends on the inner experiences of the couple who marry and not on any external service or words. Thus, the ceremony in which the couple enter into this commitment is performed by the couple alone, in the presence of God, the families, and the worshiping community. Both the solemnity and the joy of the occasion are enhanced by its simplicity."

"While most Friends’ marriage ceremonies conform to civil law, couples who do not want, or are not eligible to contract a legal marriage occasionally ask for a ceremony of commitment or a wedding under the care of the Meeting. The Religious Society of Friends has long asserted its freedom to conduct under divine leading marriage ceremonies not conforming to civil law."

This is the best way for pastors to insulate themselves from the coming onslaught of lawsuits and litigation from the gay rights movement. For those interested, here's the pledge in it's entirety:

http://www.firstthings.com/marriage-pledge

[n david]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Pastors are going to have to insulate themselves from the possibility of lawsuits. I'm not sure if anyone has heard of the "Marriage Pledge". Essentially, pastors are refusing to function as agents of the state and are conducting purely "Christian" marriages and allowing couples to seek civil recognition on their own. Part of the pledge reads:

"Therefore, in our roles as Christian ministers, we, the undersigned, commit ourselves to disengaging civil and Christian marriage in the performance of our pastoral duties. We will no longer serve as agents of the state in marriage. We will no longer sign government-provided marriage certificates. We will ask couples to seek civil marriage separately from their church-related vows and blessings. We will preside only at those weddings that seek to establish a Christian marriage in accord with the principles articulated and lived out from the beginning of the Church’s life."

This is more akin to the Quaker view of marriage. Here are some excerpts from "Faith and Practice": "Quaker Marriage Procedure"...

"Marriage is a sacred commitment of two people to love one another in faithful partnership with the expectation that the relationship will mature and be mutually enriching. Friends know that marriage depends on the inner experiences of the couple who marry and not on any external service or words. Thus, the ceremony in which the couple enter into this commitment is performed by the couple alone, in the presence of God, the families, and the worshiping community. Both the solemnity and the joy of the occasion are enhanced by its simplicity."

"While most Friends’ marriage ceremonies conform to civil law, couples who do not want, or are not eligible to contract a legal marriage occasionally ask for a ceremony of commitment or a wedding under the care of the Meeting. The Religious Society of Friends has long asserted its freedom to conduct under divine leading marriage ceremonies not conforming to civil law."

This is the best way for pastors to insulate themselves from the coming onslaught of lawsuits and litigation from the gay rights movement. For those interested, here's the pledge in it's entirety:

http://www.firstthings.com/marriage-pledge

IMO, the "marriage" aspect of this issue is going to be the least of Pastor's worries. From the questions posed by a couple Justices, the real issue will be that religious institutions and churches will be forced to accommodate, hire, house, etc, or else be in danger of losing tax exemption.