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Old 03-14-2015, 07:43 PM
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Re: Michelle Obama Celebrates Iranian New Year @WH

Who cares about their banking system? We're talking violence and threats of violence from them towards us and Israel.
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Old 03-14-2015, 07:48 PM
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Re: Michelle Obama Celebrates Iranian New Year @WH

That's a solid rebuttal.

Truth is, the facts are undeniable and can be corroborated by third party sources beyond a US govt report. News agencies around the world can attest to the fact that Iran is a continual source of fomenting death and destruction around the world.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:07 PM
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Re: Michelle Obama Celebrates Iranian New Year @WH

I'm curious why you imagine that Iran has such hostility toward us. Any idea?
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Who cares about their banking system? We're talking violence and threats of violence from them towards us and Israel.
ha well, do you not grasp that anyone rejecting the Rothschild system is demonized, and suitable fodder is either dug up, invented, or promulgated for sycophants to cluelessly repeat ad nauseum, until it becomes 'truth?' It's as old as dirt, wadr. This schtik of being the worst human rights violator while simultaneously pointing out overblown or fabricated human rights violations of others is, too.

You rep the largest arms dealers on the planet, duh. The ones pushing the loudest for "gun control." You drone wedding parties lol. Gee i wonder why anyone would want to kill you :rofl you're talking about violence and threats of violence from "them" because that is what has been put in your mouth by your masters, who are distilled evil now, and we are blinded to this.

Do yourself a favor, wadr, and watch some real news, from somewhere other than the US or UK, where they are constitutionally allowed to lie, and don't even try to hide it anymore--at least get on the same page as the neutral parties in the debate. Otherwise, you will just come across as a ranting Bill O'reilly clone, sorry. DB, you're all up on every slight perped by them--do you have the first clue what we have done to them? Let's start with the Shah, shall we? you don't have a leg to stand on here. If i were Iranian i would want to kill you, too, duh. Why they don't all feel that way is beyond me.

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Old 03-14-2015, 08:13 PM
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Re: Michelle Obama Celebrates Iranian New Year @WH

Oh the Rothschilds!!!! Black helicopters, aliens, Area 51, the Masons, 9/11 was an inside job, Elvis is still alive kind of worldview! This opens the door of understanding!

I bet you're a big fan of The Da Vinci Code.
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Old 03-14-2015, 08:21 PM
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Re: Michelle Obama Celebrates Iranian New Year @WH

ya, that's pretty much what i expected, thanks. Surely the fact that Iran is one of only 3 holdouts on the planet is irrelevant. Goodbye.
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Old 03-15-2015, 02:31 AM
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Oh the Rothschilds!!!! Black helicopters, aliens, Area 51, the Masons, 9/11 was an inside job, Elvis is still alive kind of worldview! This opens the door of understanding!

I bet you're a big fan of The Da Vinci Code.
You haven't "rebutted" anything general. You need to get prepared to explain why Iran was the agressor in every single one of your points because thats where this thread is going to go.
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Old 03-15-2015, 05:08 AM
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Fanatical religious ideology is why they are what they are. It's not because of the Shah, or because America has been so rotten to them, or bc Israel is such a threat, or they are the victims of some sort of injustice.

They believe a lie. They are possessed by spiritual darkness. They are purveyors of death.
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Old 03-15-2015, 08:39 AM
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Most--the overwhelming majority--of Muslims that i have lived among just do not fit the "fanatical" mold, wadr. You of course speak of the radicalized ones, the ones who make the evening news; but judge them all with this? See that it only takes like, what, 4 nutcases a year, and some timely "press" to report it, to keep that illusion up? Again, my biggest wonder here is how most Iranians would invite you into their homes, if they found you sleeping in the square.

understand how diluted your statements become, coming from someone who reps the largest arms dealer on the globe; and who now has a $500 billion a year--and that's just from US coffers--private mercenary force that has gone global, and whose directors--a la Eric Prince--are essentially above the law. (EP is in some Banana Republic right now, evading US prosecution)

I pulled this from RT, but they are quoting the American Conservative (who i'm not familiar with; their name suggests to me that they might be radicals )


the quote is right at 8:15, but the whole first segment seems like the real news to me; and pretty chilling...so, it remains mostly smoke and mirrors, to me; but if you want to discuss it, at least turn a fan on, and break a few mirrors imo--we have internet now.

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Old 03-15-2015, 09:23 AM
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Fanatical religious ideology is why they are what they are. It's not because of the Shah, or because America has been so rotten to them, or bc Israel is such a threat, or they are the victims of some sort of injustice.

They believe a lie. They are possessed by spiritual darkness. They are purveyors of death.
Of course not. If we want to oppress them with sanctions they should just accept it. Apply that to us and we would throw a real war over it.

You are being hypocritical general. Its amazing that every one of your examples of terrible things these evil people do always happen inside the boundaries of their own countries and always happen to people who are not in theirs but the people who are not in their own countries are always the victims.

It does not reflect America, American values, or American principles to fund and support thievery nor does it reflect American values to claim self defense when you occupy someone else's property and they attack you for it. We should not support these things.
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Old 03-16-2015, 10:45 AM
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Re: Michelle Obama Celebrates Iranian New Year @WH

Are people this dumb in America? The same rhetoric to justify the Iraq invasion is being used against Iran. Wake up people!
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