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Old 08-19-2014, 09:09 PM
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Re: Largest Apostolic Church in the US

When a similar question came up on a different thread not long ago I think many of the ones mentioned here that are UPC and thought of as the largest all had reports that indicated they actually were running 1500 or less.

I think there was one church in Florida that may have been around 2,000 but I don't recall the church or pastors name. It was not one of the "blue blood" UPC churches everyone had heard of for decades.

If FPC LR really does run 2000-2500 then I would think they are either the largest or in the top two or three. At least within predominately white churches. I have no idea if there are any PAW churches that are still 3 stepper / Oneness ones that are as big or bigger.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:23 PM
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Re: Largest Apostolic Church in the US

There are some very large black Apostolic congregations. Apostolic Church of God Chicago, Greater Grace Detroit, Grace Apostolic Indy, Greater Refuge Harlem, Bibleway DC, many others.
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Old 08-19-2014, 09:32 PM
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There are some very large black Apostolic congregations. Apostolic Church of God Chicago, Greater Grace Detroit, Grace Apostolic Indy, Greater Refuge Harlem, Bibleway DC, many others.
Are they still Acts 2:38 three stepper churches or have they "gone charismatic" and become one stepper and trinitarian tolerant like so many of us exUPCers?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 08-19-2014, 09:45 PM
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Are they still Acts 2:38 three stepper churches or have they "gone charismatic" and become one stepper and trinitarian tolerant like so many of us exUPCers?
Standard wise with the exception of Refuge are gone. At least 3 of these still preach the new birth message.
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:07 PM
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Standard wise with the exception of Refuge are gone. At least 3 of these still preach the new birth message.
So of the churches that still hold a standard do you think FPC NLR would be the largest?
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By the way.....excellent teaching at campmeeting Bro Epley!
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Old 08-19-2014, 10:21 PM
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So of the churches that still hold a standard do you think FPC NLR would be the largest?
Really I don't know? It is the largest I know. Some congregations have daughter works which might match or eve surpass that number?
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By the way.....excellent teaching at campmeeting Bro Epley!
You are kind thanks.
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Re: Largest Apostolic Church in the US

1 Corith. 1:10 is all I have to say. God help us.
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Re: Largest Apostolic Church in the US

Does the church that Grace Jones' brother pastors still count?

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