Pastors forced to perform same-sex marriages

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by anon5

That's true. It's coming. Churches were not meant to be these mega, behemoth style money makers, they have become. Why be tax exempt?

My church has avoided the govt issues by not having preachers per say, but instead members of the congregation get up and give talks about what they learned, things to edify uplift and comfort.

Here's a network of house church Apostolics. I'm not very familiar with them yet. But I do see a model like this in the future, if churches want to continue to preach the truth:

http://eojc.org/

Here are two excerpts from their constitution:

2.Heads of households, elders, preachers, teachers, or leaders of any other title are to be unpaid. However, unsolicited freewill offerings (particularly for itinerant ministers) are acceptable. The Bible does teach it is good and acceptable to give to those who minister the word (1 Cor. 9:7-14, 1 Pet. 4:8-11) but that doesn’t mean it also gives those same ministers the authority to set their wages and thus become hirelings (John 10:12-13) or extortionists (1 Cor 5:11). Thus we interpret “To live of the gospel” (1 Cor. 9:14) to mean having faith in God for His providence, not faith in a salaried position. Those who feel led of the Lord to give (2 Cor. 9:7), are further admonished to “know those who labor among you” (1 Thess 5:12).


5.The Ekklesia of Jesus Christ reserves the right to function as a religious network of Christian believers without government intervention and regulation. Since we receive our authority from God and not from man, we will not seek to be recognized by any federal government as an officially incorporated institution.

Nice.

[Fionn mac Cumh]

I really dont think this will be an issue here. Why would a gay couple force some minister to marry them that doesnt want to? There are plenty of ministers that would want to. Also wouldnt this violate freedom of religion?

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I really dont think this will be an issue here. Why would a gay couple force some minister to marry them that doesnt want to? There are plenty of ministers that would want to. Also wouldnt this violate freedom of religion?

Why would a gay couple want to force either a flourist or a baker to take part in their ceremonyif they didn't want to?

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Luke

Why would a gay couple want to force either a flourist or a baker to take part in their ceremonyif they didn't want to?

I have no idea. But I could see the stink raised over a business discriminating.

[Luke]

Is it discrimination to ave a sign that states no shoes no shirt no service?

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by Luke

Is it discrimination to ave a sign that states no shoes no shirt no service?

Dude health codes are health codes. They arent a civil rights violation. My religion is against anyone who isnt white so to hades with the civil rights act. I am sure if some business discriminated against christians your panties would be in a huge bunch.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

Dude health codes are health codes. They arent a civil rights violation. My religion is against anyone who isnt white so to hades with the civil rights act. I am sure if some business discriminated against christians your panties would be in a huge bunch.

There is the key issue. Likening homosexuality to racism.
Not even close...

[Fionn mac Cumh]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

There is the key issue. Likening homosexuality to racism.
Not even close...

Care to explain? I think I know what you mean. Your race is your race. You have no choice in that. Sexuality you have a choice. That being said, religion is a protected class for which you cant discriminate against. Discriminating against an adult who chooses to have a relationship with another adult, is not American. Again, unless you want to go back to the days when interracial marriages were outlawed.

[aegsm76]

I feel like here I go again...
Why would you again try to bring race into this?
And why would you try to frame me as racist?
Now try to stay on topic.
I assume that you approve of same-sex marriage, from your comments.
So, how do you feel about multiple partner marriages?
So long as they consenting, it should be ok, right?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Fionn mac Cumh

I really dont think this will be an issue here. Why would a gay couple force some minister to marry them that doesnt want to? There are plenty of ministers that would want to. Also wouldnt this violate freedom of religion?

Our Constitution, if interpreted rightly, would prevent it. But nothing's safe any more.