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Old 10-08-2012, 10:19 AM
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This year. One.
Arrested for what?
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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Old 10-08-2012, 10:23 AM
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Re: 2011 - 2012 United Pentecostal Church Report

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Resolution #2

"The Lord Jesus came “to seek and to save that which was lost” (Luke 19:10). This divine act of atonement is dependent on the blood of the Lamb of God and is the foundation that makes salvation possible. For “without the shedding of blood is no remission” (Hebrews 9:22). “In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace” (Ephesians 1:7). “Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood” (Revelation 1:5). Salvation is by grace through faith based on the atonement provided in Jesus Christ by His death, burial, and resurrection (Acts 2:38; 20:28)."

Does this mean that there is more necessary than the blood of Christ?
Does anyone else find it amusing that an organization is still trying to define or clarify their stand on salvational doctrine? I am asuming this resolution was for real since I didn't observe any of the conference.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:33 AM
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Re: 2011 - 2012 United Pentecostal Church Report

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Does anyone else find it amusing that an organization is still trying to define or clarify their stand on salvational doctrine?
I don't find it a bit amusing because thousands or millions of people seem to be confused about that.
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Old 10-08-2012, 10:41 AM
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[QUOTE=Norman;1193839]I don't find it a bit amusing because thousands or millions of people seem to be confused about that.[/QUOTE

Amusing was maybe a poor choice of word. I share your concern and agree on the confusion.
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Old 10-08-2012, 01:30 PM
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Re: 2011 - 2012 United Pentecostal Church Report

What is the current stance of the UCPI on Military service? I know it was voted on at one point but never did hear how the vote went. (can't open the report)
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:11 PM
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What is the current stance of the UCPI on Military service? I know it was voted on at one point but never did hear how the vote went. (can't open the report)

The GC voted to allow individuals and pastors to follow their conscience on this topic. They no longer actually take a stand for or against members serving in the military. They still condone members being conscientious objectors. They gave a number of reasons for doing so, and I personally feel that this was the correct move to make.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:15 PM
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The GC voted to allow individuals and pastors to follow their conscience on this topic. They no longer actually take a stand for or against members serving in the military. They still condone members being conscientious objectors. They gave a number of reasons for doing so, and I personally feel that this was the correct move to make.
If this is correct I am also pleased they have stepped back from the pacifist only stance and are allowing pastors to preach their own understanding and conviction in this matter.

Suffice it to say the United States of America would not exist if that pacifist position prevailed. I personally think it is a travesty and not biblical.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:17 PM
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If this is correct I am also pleased they have stepped back from the pacifist only stance and are allowing pastors to preach their own understanding and conviction in this matter.

Suffice it to say the United States of America would not exist if that pacifist position prevailed. I personally think it is a travesty and not biblical.

I read the report of the vote. This seems to have been the most controversial issue. I do not believe that we will see another situation like Tampa for another 2-5 years.
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Old 10-10-2012, 04:20 PM
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The GC voted to allow individuals and pastors to follow their conscience on this topic. They no longer actually take a stand for or against members serving in the military. They still condone members being conscientious objectors. They gave a number of reasons for doing so, and I personally feel that this was the correct move to make.
I very much disagree. I also think this is quite a bit bigger than the TV issue. Although it doesnt appear to be esteemed as such in most circles.
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I very much disagree. I also think this is quite a bit bigger than the TV issue. Although it doesnt appear to be esteemed as such in most circles.
Yep. Standards are more important than being a real Christian.
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