__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
Lol; yet Scripture tells us that any apparent contradictions are in our minds.
I can't help but think that a Search for a "perfect" canon is essentially
a search for Law, when we now have Grace?
Yes, I'll find some refs tonite. This is hardly an obscure doctrine. It's why I'm so big on premises; apparent "contradictions" arise from false premises, ie "Why did God murder..."
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It is?
Well, in the absence of a specific "contradiction,"
I would have to say yes.
"The measure you use is the measure you get."
Scripture says that a condemned person at judgement will agree that their sentence is just. When one accepts Grace, however, that free gift that is so hard to accept for many, that will not apply.
Recog the Scripture that gets the unwitting sheep at "the sheep and goats" in; it is really all one needs. Everything else--Easter, Rapture, Eschatology, all fade to semantics.
Yes, I'll find some refs tonite. This is hardly an obscure doctrine. It's why I'm so big on premises; apparent "contradictions" arise from false premises, ie "Why did God murder..."
Well, in the absence of a specific "contradiction,"
I would have to say yes.
"The measure you use is the measure you get."
Scripture says that a condemned person at judgement will agree that their sentence is just. When one accepts Grace, however, that free gift that is so hard to accept for many, that will not apply.
Recog the Scripture that gets the unwitting sheep at "the sheep and goats" in; it is really all one needs. Everything else--Easter, Rapture, Eschatology, all fade to semantics.
Unwitting? Don't you think the sheep will be the ones who read the story about the sheep and the goats, and fed the hungry, gave drink to the thirsty, took strangers in, visited prisoners and the sick -- so they would be considered sheep? Why else would Jesus tell that story? It seems like he would expect people to hear it and act on it.
Now, of course, there will be many people who do those things who never heard that story, some who never even heard of Jesus. Maybe those are the unwitting sheep? They will be given grace, which you mention so often, because of their works.
Sad for the goats, though. No grace for you!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Unwitting? Don't you think the sheep will be the ones who read the story about the sheep and the goats, and fed the hungry, gave drink to the thirsty, took strangers in, visited prisoners and the sick -- so they would be considered sheep? Why else would Jesus tell that story? It seems like he would expect people to hear it and act on it.
Now, of course, there will be many people who do those things who never heard that story, some who never even heard of Jesus. Maybe those are the unwitting sheep? They will be given grace, which you mention so often, because of their works.
Sad for the goats, though. No grace for you!
Yes, the parable was told as a reflection of the kingdom.
And Christ has more names than we, anyone, knows.
Grace is not given, but accepted in the sense that now operates for a human; it has already been provided, and it is free; every time you extend it to a goat, it grows: )
The scripture reveal Jesus Christ, however, they have been stewarded by men, therefore thru translation and men's bias, the scripture that we hold are not perfect.
Having said that, we must and we can search the scriptures and in them we can find the revealing of Jesus, the "words of life".
__________________ For it is written, "As I live, says the Lord every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall give praise to God. (Romans 14:11- NASB)
The scripture reveal Jesus Christ, however, they have been stewarded by men, therefore thru translation and men's bias, the scripture that we hold are not perfect.
Having said that, we must and we can search the scriptures and in them we can find the revealing of Jesus, the "words of life".
"And ye shall wash your clothes on the seventh day, and ye shall be clean..." other places. There is grace evident even in this obvious exposition of Law, written in a time different from ours; and what you intimate here is completely apples and oranges. Num 31 like any Scripture must be understood in context.
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