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Old 09-08-2011, 10:34 AM
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Re: Republican Debate

I thought Romney pulled a clever maneuver. Just my personal observation.

The question was on Perry's Gardasil (HPV) legislation.

When questioned, Romney sided with Perry, in that, he said, "My guess is that Gov. Perry would like to do that a different way. Second time through we each get a, we've each taken a Mulligan or two. And my guess is that's something you would probably do a little differently. Second time he just said he would rather do it through legislation, next time through, and I recognize he wanted badly to provide better healthcare to his kids and to prevent the spread of cancer. I agree with those that said he went about it in the wrong way, but I think his heart was in the right place."

What he did was soften the blow for his own healthcare debacle, but he also closed the door for Perry to take shots at him in the future on that. Pretty clever.

One thing that hurt Romney, IMO, was coming at Perry's job growth success in Texas to defend his own state. He said that Texas had a better business environment than Massachusetts. He stated it was because Texas doesn't have an income tax, strong union presence and it is an oil and gas industry.

I can only imagine people were thinking it would be nice if the rest of the country had those advantages. If anyone shot themselves in the foot, Romney did it here.

And even though I don't think Gingrich stands a chance, he is absolutely the most brilliant man on the stage and in the room.
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:55 AM
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Re: Republican Debate

Great take PO.
I agree with your comments.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:13 AM
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Gingrich would make an excellent president, but your right, he doesn't really have a chance.
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Old 09-08-2011, 11:20 AM
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Gingrich just makes me want to cry. Dude is the smartest guy in the room and I dont care what room you put him in. But he also carries a self distruct button with him at all times and for whatever reason, he seems to enjoy pushing it!

I would vote for him if I thought there was the slightest chance he would put that self distruct button away. But he wont. So we will be left with the second (or third) best option to run against Bammer.


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Old 09-08-2011, 11:25 AM
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There seem to be two schools of thought forming in Republican Primary voting ranks.

1. Obama will lose so lets pick the most conservative candidate because we will win.

2. Obama is weak but still is the sitting president. Lets pick the guy who has the best chance of beating Obama.

In my opinion Perry fits the first catagory and Romney fits the second.

I have always been a pragmatist but I am as yet undecided which direction I will go in this.
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I did not watch the debate, by the time Ohio votes for the candates it is almost always decided. I will wait and see who survives. deafdriscoll
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There seem to be two schools of thought forming in Republican Primary voting ranks.

1. Obama will lose so lets pick the most conservative candidate because we will win.

2. Obama is weak but still is the sitting president. Lets pick the guy who has the best chance of beating Obama.

In my opinion Perry fits the first catagory and Romney fits the second.

I have always been a pragmatist but I am as yet undecided which direction I will go in this.
I agree Ferdmeister. I think one of them will be the nominee, however in the primary for Missouri I will likely support a Bachman or equivalent to influence the eventual nominee.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:56 PM
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I agree Ferdmeister. I think one of them will be the nominee, however in the primary for Missouri I will likely support a Bachman or equivalent to influence the eventual nominee.
I wouldnt vote for Bachman for the same reason I wouldnt vote for Mike Pense. Her only major experience is as a member of the House of Represenatives. And for someone who has been there as long as she has, she has not actually done very much. (Pense did do quite a bit but still needs some other experience on the resume).
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Gingrich would make an excellent president, but your right, he doesn't really have a chance.
Gingrich is the only one I have met in person. It was long ago and he was at the top of his game. Today he is seen by me is misreading too many issues.
By the way, he can't win. Guiliani can't win and Trump never could.
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Mark Levin has a poll out on the debate. So far, 1,108 have voted.

Rick Perry - 41%
Romney - 15%

Pretty surprised by that. I think he got past all of the tough questions last night. The thing about Perry is that he is going to be who he is and, frankly, I think that is what the American people want, especially right now. I'm thinking this is not going to hurt him, because it has been said that he is much more personable at his campaign and townhall meetings than Romney.

And he is a very personable guy. That was one of Clinton's assets.

Romney throwing in his potshot about Gore saying he invented the Internet is trying to tie Perry with Gore when he was a Democrat. Romney is gearing up for that, IMO.

That isn't going to work, because Perry's record shows he was a BlueDog Democrat. He has also been termed as a "Conservative Democrat Circa 1960."
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