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Old 03-08-2011, 07:00 PM
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IN DEFENSE OF THE RED-FACED PREACHER

This is a blog post by Myles Young's youth pastor.


http://e-luminations.blogspot.com/20...-preacher.html
If sports are so worldly why do they always compare ourselves to them?
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:04 PM
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If sports are so worldly why do they always compare ourselves to them?


Analogies can definitely get stretched too far can't they...
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:07 PM
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Analogies can definitely get stretched too far can't they...
Yup...it's confusing. Don't be like the world. BE LIKE THE WORLD OR GO TO HELL...huh?

It's wrong to do it, the world does it. It's ok to do it, the world does it...huh?
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:09 PM
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We are Jesus' fellow brethren from that theological perspective. Joint heirs.

Then there's the anger vs. righteous indignation. Is anger an evil emotion?

Did you read the blog post I cited? Thoughts?

It certainly achieves results -- though it doesn't mean the "desired" result. Hitler was a very angry and passionate speaker. and he convinced millions to do unspeakably evil things.
Blog post reeks of arrogance. Idiocy.
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Something else I can't stand is negative comparisons to other denominations. There are so many unchurched souls out there that need to be saved and the preacher is talking bad about the baptists? Huh?
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:11 PM
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"Knows the Word better than anyone else on the field." I think that sums up the mindset.
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Re: Angry Preachers

Hate it.

The best one was the preacher who yelled "go to hell, then!" when people weren't responding fast enough. Classy.
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Re: Angry Preachers

I am on the iPhone but I think I read it all.

I would better understand if the anger was for emphasis or an inflection of a particular statement, but what I am thinking is that it's a style or something.

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We are Jesus' fellow brethren from that theological perspective. Joint heirs.

Then there's the anger vs. righteous indignation. Is anger an evil emotion?

Did you read the blog post I cited? Thoughts?

It certainly achieves results -- though it doesn't mean the "desired" result. Hitler was a very angry and passionate speaker. and he convinced millions to do unspeakably evil things.
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:47 PM
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More than anything it's puzzling to me. Why would it be attractive? Certainly not because it achieves any good results... Or does it? Perhaps the conflict is the goal... Sort of a self-fulfilling prophesy perhaps? The man of God speaking the truth against all odds?

I really don't know...

I have heard the analogy of Jesus getting angry in the temple but, that analogy seems to fall short seeing the minister is not Jesus and the congregants are his fellow brothers in Christ.
Its a physcological ego trip. As a poster said, generally when someone is preaching angry, it is becuase they are mad someone isn't lining up, or attempting to assert their influence, though mostly it is both. And rarely is there much substance, though I don't have a problem with someone being angry about sin or what sin has done in someones life.

Maybe I'm coming across to critical, but I am under the impression that alot of "pentecostal preaching" is more about antics and mannerisms, than actual substance.

You have the preachers who get all "red in the face".
Those who can't speak a sentance without gasping for a breath or saying "bless God/praise God".
Those who speak into the mic and out of the mic, using voice inflection (a sometimes taught behavior).
And regardless of what is being said the most important trait is VOLUME. VOLUME equals ANOINTING and AUTHORITY therefore, if your not a screamer, your not really "pentecostal".

I was actually told at one time in my life (by a UPC pastor) that I wasn't being preached because my "delivery" wasn't pentecostal enough. I need to work on it. Translation-I'm not animated enough (I rarely move from behind the pulpit) and I don't scream enough (I rarely scream, though I do try to speak loudly, if for no other reason than that sometimes I have been told I'm hard to hear in the back of a church).

So faced with a decision to "play the part" or be sat down. I choose to be me, and was sat down for the better part of 5 years. But God always makes a way, and I've been able to be a blessing to many people and God gives me plenty of ministry oppertunites, simply by being myself.

I guess if I ever get desperate to be an evangelist or conference preacher, I'll start speaking loud and fast and say non-sensical things like "you need a refill of the Holy Ghost." On second thought,
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:50 PM
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Yup...it's confusing. Don't be like the world. BE LIKE THE WORLD OR GO TO HELL...huh?

It's wrong to do it, the world does it. It's ok to do it, the world does it...huh?
If Pentecostalism was like Islam, consistency certainly would not be one of the "5 Pillars". Then again, neither is it in Islam.
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