~Love and Sex God's Way~

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

Thanks for the feedback. I have been waiting for about 3 months, to coordinate this with Valentines Day. I might open the message with the theme song from the Love Boat!

How about "At Last" by Etta James?

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Pastor Keith

I know, but I want their attention, M. Driscoll said something in his book that I agree with, the worship of Sex (appetites) is the greatest enemy of the Church.

I like Driscoll and thought his sermons on marriage and sex were good. So many of us, even those who grew up in Christian homes, do not understand how biblically we are supposed to lead our families.

With so much dysfunction and misunderstanding in our culture Christians have taken on some of these sinful traits without even realizing it.

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

How about "At Last" by Etta James?

I will look at that! Using an opening video or song, often is the right thing needed to draw people attention.

[Pressing-On]

Excellent study, Keith!!!

I especially liked this part: "The way out of sexual sin is not condemnation, guilt or shame, but being controlled by the Holy Spirit."

It brought to mind, the other day, my son was sitting on the first pew at church. I looked over and thought of how much I loved him - the intense love a mother has for her child! Then the thought came to me - that is how much the more God looks at us, loves us and forgives us. He loves us more! He wants to lead us out of any situation that is trying to destroy us.

[MissBrattified]

Very good!

I really like Mark Driscoll's teaching on sexuality and marriage, too.

[RandyWayne]

Don't go into dating with the goal of romance, but the goal of spending time with your brother or sister. When you begin a relationship, a rule of thumb is, don't do anything physically you wouldn't do with your brother or sister.

OK, how many have gone into a dating relationship and really felt this way. I mean really. I can say that I have never ever asked someone out because they looked like or reminded me of one of my sisters NOR did I plan on pretending it was one of my sisters instead of my date.

(I think the lesson is good.... just nit picking a point or two here.)

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

OK, how many have gone into a dating relationship and really felt this way. I mean really.

Not me!

I think it's intended to be a way of setting safe boundaries--not an actual *feeling.*

It's a good way to make boys understand how they should respect the girl they're with. "Don't do anything to your date that you wouldn't do to your sister." (I think he meant "sister" in the sense of "brother or sister in Christ"--not a physical sibling.)

*ahem*

I'm assuming that Keith doesn't believe in hand-holding, hugging and kissing until marriage. I have to say...all that touchy stuff always leads to other touchy stuff! Not a terrible idea, just keeping your hands to yourself.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Not me!

I think it's intended to be a way of setting safe boundaries--not an actual *feeling.*

It's a good way to make boys understand how they should respect the girl they're with. "Don't do anything to your date that you wouldn't do to your sister."

*ahem*

I'm assuming that Keith doesn't believe in hand-holding, hugging and kissing until marriage. I have to say...all that touchy stuff always leads to other touchy stuff! Not a terrible idea, just keeping your hands to yourself.

....and don't give me no lines.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

....and don't give me no lines.

What?

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What?

I got a little change in my pocket goin' jing-a-ling-a-ling
Wants to call you on the telephone baby, a-give you a ring
But each time we talk, I get the same old thing
Always no hugg-ee no kiss-ee until I get a weddin' ring
My honey my baby, don't put my love upon no shelf
She said don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself

B-b-b-baby baby baby why you wan' treat me this way
You know I'm still your lover boy I still feel the same way
That's when she told me a story, 'bout free milk and a cow
And said no hugg-ee no kiss-ee until I get a weddin' vow
My honey my baby, don't put my love upon no shelf
She said don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself

Hold it here
See I wanted her real bad, and I was about to give in
But that's when she started talking about true love,
started talking about sin
And I said, honey I'll live with you for the rest of my life,
She said no hugg-ee no kiss-ee until you make me your wife-a
My honey my baby, don't put my love upon no shelf
She said don't hand me no lines and keep your hands to yourself