Is this true? - Page 2

Dedicated Mind · #11 11-21-2009, 10:18 AM

scary, endtime.com follows katherine albrecht's "ministry"

Sister Alvear · #12 11-21-2009, 10:26 AM

Many things are invented in the name of progress...all leading to a one world government...

jfrog · #13 11-21-2009, 01:33 PM

We are in no danger of one world government. Get all the islamic states to merge under one government first. Then we might be getting somewhere.

jfrog · #14 11-21-2009, 01:34 PM

There is a much larger world than the USA and Europe...

mfblume · #15 11-21-2009, 01:52 PM

But how does scanning chips have anything to do with worship of the beast that damns a soul? Too much that is in the bible itself explains the issue rather than looking to any similar-in-appearance-only unrelated issue. My opinion.

Praxeas · #16 11-21-2009, 04:50 PM

There isn't any connection between the swine flu and chipping. Yes someday it may be mandatory like SS numbers and Drivers licenses but I don't see the connection

pelathais · #17 11-21-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Many things are invented in the name of progress...all leading to a one world government...

But tracking medical devices like breast implants, pacemakers and titanium steel hip replacements probably doesn't have a lot to do with Bible eschatology.

My pastor told us in 1980 that members of the US Armed Forces were being forced to "receive the Mark of the Beast." He went on to say that the rest of us were "next" unless Jesus came.

Can anyone show me where a single member of the Armed Forces has ever been forced to "receive" anything in their right hand or their foreheads? Nope? That was 30 years ago, surely someone would have come forward by now. And why has it taken "the government" 30 years ... and still no "Mark of the Best" for everyone else? For anyone any where?

See Matthew 7:15-23. I do not want to be a part of this group of people. And how can we tell who the false prophets are? By their fruits. Did they tell us the truth?

pelathais · #18 11-21-2009, 06:25 PM

I'm also wondering, can anyone show me where the idea of "one world government" is a bad thing in the Bible?

Of course, whether I would think it's good or bad would have a lot to do with who's in charge. Me, for example. I'm not such a bad sort of guy. Things might get chaotic in the provinces because I do forget about small details like that. But over all, my reign would be a benevolent one and if you've been my friend on AFF I'll certainly be looking out for you... if I were the King of the World.

A more likely scenario however is described in Psalm 72:11; Philippians 2:9-11; 1 Timothy 6:15 and Revelation 19:15-16. I think everyone here would be in favor of this "One World Government."

It seems to me that the evil end time conspiracy folks all get the idea of the "One World Government" from Revelation 13:17 - the fact that "the beast" has apparent control over who can "buy and sell." This doesn't really require a "One World Government."

And then there's also the general desire in the medieval West for a re-establishment of order such as was found in the days of the Roman Empire. The chaos of the Dark Ages left a profound mark on the human psyche. Never mind the fact that Europeans fought each attempt at collectivization with tooth and nail up into the 20th Century.

It just puzzles me; why all the paranoia over the imagined "One World Government" when the Bible doesn't really even say that such a thing will exist before Jesus Christ Himself institutes it?

Timmy · #19 11-21-2009, 06:33 PM

I was just wondering, what if the whole world took a vote and decided to put the church, represented by, say, the UPCI, in charge?

pelathais · #20 11-21-2009, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

But how does scanning chips have anything to do with worship of the beast that damns a soul? Too much that is in the bible itself explains the issue rather than looking to any similar-in-appearance-only unrelated issue. My opinion.

And to implant these devices into the "right hand or the forehead" would be impractical, even counter-productive.

Just imagine having anything implanted into your hand, especially the back of your hand. It would raise a bump that you forever be knocking around and against things. Little bumps that go unnoticed without the implant would become painful and even gruesome wounds if you had something rigid implanted there.

And the forehead? Are we prepared for a world where everybody looked like the Klingon Worf?

The whole "computer chip as the Mark of the Beast" theory is senseless. It was developed by folks that knew nothing of computer chips, medical implants and very little of the Word of God. ... again IMHO.