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05-04-2009, 10:59 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
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Originally Posted by El Predicador
According to MicroTrends by Mark J. Penn
EVERY denomination that has espoused Women Pastors has had a drastic and long term DROP in membership.
I Tim 2:11-15
11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
15Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety
I Cor 14:35
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
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05-04-2009, 11:12 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
Thank God for lady men of God.
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05-04-2009, 11:27 PM
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>>Primitive Pentecostal<<
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
We wouldn't have a whole big bunch of our church's if lady men of God hadn't started them.
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05-04-2009, 11:33 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
EA, That's just flat wrong!
Lady men of God. The images! Get them outta my head!
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05-04-2009, 11:39 PM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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05-05-2009, 07:36 AM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
Women preachers have been fairly popular in the UPC from the very beginning.
So... according to this theory... UPC has been dying from day one.
I grew up in a church with a woman pastor. I was 26 years old before I ever had a male pastor. And all of those years under a woman pastor has not made me an advocate of women pastors either...
But the correlation that is being drawn here is baseless.
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05-05-2009, 08:30 AM
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Silent No More
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
I grew up in a church with a woman pastor. I was 26 years old before I ever had a male pastor. And all of those years under a woman pastor has not made me an advocate of women pastors either...
But the correlation that is being drawn here is baseless.
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Individual experiences do not a trend make.
Sis Brattified,
All of pages 53-57 are dedicated to the topic far too much to retype.
It comes with accompanying documentation and graphs.
A couple quotes:
"In the past two decades, the number of female clergy has more than tripled. Women students in divinity school just passed 51%.... But a deeper look at the struggles of women clergy suggests that what's ahead may not be Good News.... In the past fifty years, nearly every major religious group in America that has permitted women clergy has seen a profound drop in membership. And every major religious group that has excluded women clergy has seen a dramatic rise... As the chart below shows, mainline Protestant groups that permit women clergy have dropped in membership. Most other denominations that exclude them have grown."
Detailed chart on page 55 covering 1960-2002
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05-05-2009, 08:38 AM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
Do these people baptize in Jesus Name?
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05-05-2009, 08:44 AM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
Please understand I personally like the idea of MEN pastors...however many women that I have known and know have given their whole lives for souls...I know there are some odd ones out there but I have met my share of odd men too...
I feel even in my line of work...I was probably not God´s first choice...however when He said go I went...
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05-05-2009, 08:44 AM
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Re: Women Pastors- equal Dying Denominations
"mainline Protestant groups" would exclude denominations like UPC, and possibly even AOG.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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