Sunday School classes teaching sex education

[Jack Shephard]

Originally Posted by Pro31:28

And This sister gives you a loud "AMEN"!!!

Thanks. I just think that it could cut down on a lot of the premarital pregnancies and other things. No one is perfect and kids will make mistakes, but at least if they make mistakes with the right teachings they will be mature enough to deal with the mistakes and move on. I am not looking forward to when my daughter dates. She is only 2 so I got a while, but my wife and I have made a deal to teach her right about the topic of sex and to not cast her away for her mistakes. But if we are proactive instead or reactive then I feel that it betters our chances of my daughter being pure until marriage and being mature enough to handle that part of the relationship once she is married.

I set it all the time with friends of mine and others that didn't have the correct teaching on this topic unitl right before marriage and you expect them to change their minds on the subject of sex? After they are taught all their lives how wrong it is and then in a short time have to unlearn that is very unhealthy to the mental state and physcial state of a boy and a girl. You don't send troopers into battle with out the correct training first do you? No way.

[Pro31:28]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Thanks. I just think that it could cut down on a lot of the premarital pregnancies and other things. No one is perfect and kids will make mistakes, but at least if they make mistakes with the right teachings they will be mature enough to deal with the mistakes and move on. I am not looking forward to when my daughter dates. She is only 2 so I got a while, but my wife and I have made a deal to teach her right about the topic of sex and to not cast her away for her mistakes. But if we are proactive instead or reactive then I feel that it betters our chances of my daughter being pure until marriage and being mature enough to handle that part of the relationship once she is married.

I set it all the time with friends of mine and others that didn't have the correct teaching on this topic unitl right before marriage and you expect them to change their minds on the subject of sex? After they are taught all their lives how wrong it is and then in a short time have to unlearn that is very unhealthy to the mental state and physcial state of a boy and a girl. You don't send troopers into battle with out the correct training first do you? No way.

It is so true. If God put a whole book in the Bible about it, I think we need to talk about it... Hey he didn't put a whole book about hair, and yet that topic has seen alot threads... LOL
But seriously, the enemy is taking our kids through ignorance, and we refuse to give them the tools to fight. We have had discussions with our kids (our own children) and one of them was about STD's. Later on they asked a question about genTILE herpes, I just about lost it! I explained the answer to the original question, then I said "I guess the ones you were talking about were the ones that Jews don't get"....

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by Pro31:28

It is so true. If God put a whole book in the Bible about it, I think we need to talk about it... Hey he didn't put a whole book about hair, and yet that topic has seen alot threads... LOL
But seriously, the enemy is taking our kids through ignorance, and we refuse to give them the tools to fight. We have had discussions with our kids (our own children) and one of them was about STD's. Later on they asked a question about genTILE herpes, I just about lost it! I explained the answer to the original question, then I said "I guess the ones you were talking about were the ones that Jews don't get"....

that is funny

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

I have no trouble with the church teaching on sex or about sex to the youth, say 15 and older. However discussion on positions and 'how-to's' and how-not-to's' should not be the topic that should be covered in a premarital class, IMO. Teaching that sex and sex acts are great things, BUT in the confines of marriage is important.

This topic has been too taboo in the church. If it is taught on the only thing you hear is how bad it is. I think it can hurt our kids. They have this false sense that sex is bad, but yet their bodies are telling them it is ok to do so there is this disconnect. I believe that if the church approached sex from a proactive view instead a reactive view that the youths of our church might have a better understanding and might actually stay away from it. My parents taught me about the benefits of sexual expressions, but also taught it was specifically for marriage. It actually helped me. I think that if we taught it to the youth in a straight honest way and not pervert it to be some bad thing, but show them the actual benefits and purpose it might be a different situation with them experimenting with it, IMO.

I agree that it shouldn't be taboo, BUT if a child is a minor (under 18), their parents should have a say in what they're taught, IF at all. Secondly, there are a LOT of church Sunday School teachers whose views on sexuality I would NOT want taught to my children, even from the point of their interpretation on an approved curriculum.

So even if I thought the curriculum was okay, I still might not want my child to hear it from certain people, because the curriculum will always have the slant of the teacher.

Bottom line, though, the church staff does not have the right to teach on sensitive topics (to minors) without the permission of the parents. Period.

I do agree that these things need to be discussed, and from a biblical perspective. But parents are NOT the enemy, and should never be left out of the equation.

[Pro31:28]

I absolutely agree, and no, parents are not the enemy. If it was taught properly in the home I doubt we would have a problem with it in the church, yet we do.
One solution to the problem would be for teens (with their) parents to go through a curriculum (maybe during sunday school, or mid-week service)-- with the boys and girls separated-- and let the teacher guide the discussion. My fear is that many parents wouldn't want to miss their own service, or sit there and be uncomfortable in a room where sex is being discussed.But I would be that alot of parents might get some questions answered!
I think alot of parents would rather have someone else teach their kids about sex.

Just a thought

[jaxfam6]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree that it shouldn't be taboo, BUT if a child is a minor (under 18), their parents should have a say in what they're taught, IF at all. Secondly, there are a LOT of church Sunday School teachers whose views on sexuality I would NOT want taught to my children, even from the point of their interpretation on an approved curriculum.
So even if I thought the curriculum was okay, I still might not want my child to hear it from certain people, because the curriculum will always have the slant of the teacher.
Bottom line, though, the church staff does not have the right to teach on sensitive topics (to minors) without the permission of the parents. Period.

I do agree that these things need to be discussed, and from a biblical perspective. But parents are NOT the enemy, and should never be left out of the equation.

Amen
Amen
Amen
and AMEN

[SavedLou]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I agree that it shouldn't be taboo, BUT if a child is a minor (under 18), their parents should have a say in what they're taught, IF at all. Secondly, there are a LOT of church Sunday School teachers whose views on sexuality I would NOT want taught to my children, even from the point of their interpretation on an approved curriculum.

So even if I thought the curriculum was okay, I still might not want my child to hear it from certain people, because the curriculum will always have the slant of the teacher.

Bottom line, though, the church staff does not have the right to teach on sensitive topics (to minors) without the permission of the parents. Period.

I do agree that these things need to be discussed, and from a biblical perspective. But parents are NOT the enemy, and should never be left out of the equation.

Exactly. I think parental approval is needed for 18 and up as well if they're still in the youth dept. As a SS teacher, I would never think of doing this! I am shocked and appalled that they would teach a series on this a) for WHAT purpose?! SS is for teaching Biblical principles and b) with no parental or pastor approval. Those teachers should have been reprimanded and banned for every teaching SS again! I agree that there needs to be more of a discussion on this in the church from a positive point of view (w/in marriage)for the older youth. But it should all be done very cautiously, with parental and pastor consent and probably taught with a married lady teaching to the girls, a man to the guys, etc. But not in Sunday School....think about the visitors! And someone taught positions?! That sounds very, VERY perverted and suspicious! That is totally inappropriate converation for teenagers.

I get nervous at Christmas when we teach on Mary giving birth to Jesus before she was married. I teach the younger ones and I don't want any questions! Thankfully our SS literature omits the word "virgin" from the books for the little ones.

I know I had sex ed in high school in a co-ed setting but it was not explicit...more factual with lots of emphasis on what STD's do to you. And we had to watch a video of a woman giving birth.

[RandyWayne]

First off.... I agree that it does not belong in Sunday school class for the most part.

Second, when I was in Sunday school I cannot imagine any of my teachers bringing it up. To them SEX was a four letter word. Something done behind multiple closed doors, in the dark, silently, and never EVER admitted to -with the assumption that all the kids running around just spontaneously came to be.
Now things may have changed since the early 80's but my fear of such a topic in SS is that the teachers would be too "prudish" with the "sex is for procreation only" doctrine being taught.

[Pro31:28]

Originally Posted by SavedLou

Exactly. I think parental approval is needed for 18 and up as well if they're still in the youth dept. As a SS teacher, I would never think of doing this! I am shocked and appalled that they would teach a series on this a) for WHAT purpose?! SS is for teaching Biblical principles and b) with no parental or pastor approval. Those teachers should have been reprimanded and banned for every teaching SS again! I agree that there needs to be more of a discussion on this in the church from a positive point of view (w/in marriage)for the older youth. But it should all be done very cautiously, with parental and pastor consent and probably taught with a married lady teaching to the girls, a man to the guys, etc. But not in Sunday School....think about the visitors! And someone taught positions?! That sounds very, VERY perverted and suspicious! That is totally inappropriate converation for teenagers.

I get nervous at Christmas when we teach on Mary giving birth to Jesus before she was married. I teach the younger ones and I don't want any questions! Thankfully our SS literature omits the word "virgin" from the books for the little ones.

I know I had sex ed in high school in a co-ed setting but it was not explicit...more factual with lots of emphasis on what STD's do to you. And we had to watch a video of a woman giving birth.

That reminds me of a funny story. We have always been extremely open with our children about sex. This is what it is, the time is after you're married, and the place is well... that's your business. We have always called anatomy what it is (no nicknnames) and we have always explained to our kids that they are not to share ANY information about sex with their friends. L
Last Christmas my daughter who was in 5th grade was in class, and the subject of circumcision came up. She made a face and at recess some of the girls asked her about it, she explained it, then she came home and proudly told me what she had done. I looked at her and said, "why did you do that? we told you not to talk about sex with your friends" she responded, "Mom it's not sex, it's circumcision". I laughed and said ok, "NO DISCUSSIONS with friends about anything that the bathing suit covers!