Pedophilia in Kansas Church

[faithinthefire]

Originally Posted by Jacob's Ladder

While you're in flesh you're liable to do anything, if you allow yourself.

I'm sure within this last two weeks you've sinned once or twice.

I'm not talking about people's opinion on which sin is greater than which, but which sin is greater in the eye's of God, the pastor fornicating or the sins you've committed within the last two weeks?

As far as I'm aware, there's only one unforgivable sin, blashemphy against the Holy Ghost. Other than that, I believe all sinful acts are equal in the sight of God. Sin is sin, period.

JL, that's true. But we're talking about a man who dangled many others' feet over the flames of hell for much lesser "sins". Who kicked people out and then spread horrible rumors about them. And someone who, when they were kicked out, sometimes never let them come back or go anywhere else to a oneness church. Who announced in church, if someone left and went to another church, that there was a new trash can for the trash to go to, and then asked if there was anyone else who'd like to go to the trash can with the rest of the trash.

Yes, sin is sin. But for those of us who've lived with that church's shunning, who've dealt with the shame and humiliation of being labeled as things we were not and finding even our closest friends didn't believe us because Edwin Young said they were true, who've lost jobs and friends and even family because of some of this man's sin... well, to those who like me have dealt with that, statements like yours above turn our stomachs.

Am I glad of the sin that has become known? No. Am I relieved that it was finally brought to light? Yes. Not because I want people to hurt, but because by making it known, maybe no more will be. At least not by that man.

[Walks_in_islam]

Nobody said anything here about the "horrible record of Islam" and you can just pony up at the table and type your fingers off all you want over in the islamic section of this forum. I'll kick back and wait for you to show up.

Muslim governments show their "condoning" of these activities by publicly executing captured terrorists in public squares. Whether you think it is right or wrong it is highly entertaining to the (yes also Muslims who didnt condone the indescriminate killings of their friends and relatives either) victims. They don't fool around and they don't get years and years of appeals either.

You get caught with weapons or bomb making materials in Saudi and you're watching flowers grow by the roots in 3-4 weeks.

This does not match your limited worldview sport. Brain-dead is behaving like sheeple in churches while pedophilia happens right in front of you and you do nothing. Me? I prefer the catch, quickly try, and <snick> execute method which is why, unbelievably, Saudi Arabia was a safer place for me and my family than downtown Houston (where the "Greenspoint" area has been humorously nicknamed "Gunspoint" mr shooter). Your christian colleagues in Saudi freely go wherever they wish while your christian colleagues in America avoid "Gunspoint" and thousands of other areas in your own backyards around the country.

I dont really see any of you out there addressing that either SO that implies, based on your own logic, that you condone it.

Here is what I think: It's easier to focus on 3000 murders 11 years ago than to focus on the 240,000 murders that have happened on your own streets because you would otherwise be empty without some invented outside "enemy" to attack and this has been true since your religion was founded and will be true until you are "spewed out" as your book of Revelation implies you eventually will.

Originally Posted by strait shooter

Nothing that Christian leaders do today even begin to compare to the atrocities committed by Radical Muslims, and the subtle condoning of these crimes by so called "Moderate" Muslims. Walks in Islam uses the same straw man that most moderate Muslims do....throw the crimes and indiscretions of a few ignorant or evil "Christians" up to distract from the horrible record of Islam in this world.

Anyone who would convert to Islam, knowing the violence, hate, and death that it has perpetuated in the world has got to be brain dead or worse.

[strait shooter]

Originally Posted by Walks_in_islam

Nobody said anything here about the "horrible record of Islam" and you can just pony up at the table and type your fingers off all you want over in the islamic section of this forum. I'll kick back and wait for you to show up.

Muslim governments show their "condoning" of these activities by publicly executing captured terrorists in public squares. Whether you think it is right or wrong it is highly entertaining to the (yes also Muslims who didnt condone the indescriminate killings of their friends and relatives either) victims. They don't fool around and they don't get years and years of appeals either.

You get caught with weapons or bomb making materials in Saudi and you're watching flowers grow by the roots in 3-4 weeks.

This does not match your limited worldview sport. Brain-dead is behaving like sheeple in churches while pedophilia happens right in front of you and you do nothing. Me? I prefer the catch, quickly try, and <snick> execute method which is why, unbelievably, Saudi Arabia was a safer place for me and my family than downtown Houston (where the "Greenspoint" area has been humorously nicknamed "Gunspoint" mr shooter). Your christian colleagues in Saudi freely go wherever they wish while your christian colleagues in America avoid "Gunspoint" and thousands of other areas in your own backyards around the country.

I dont really see any of you out there addressing that either SO that implies, based on your own logic, that you condone it.

Here is what I think: It's easier to focus on 3000 murders 11 years ago than to focus on the 240,000 murders that have happened on your own streets because you would otherwise be empty without some invented outside "enemy" to attack and this has been true since your religion was founded and will be true until you are "spewed out" as your book of Revelation implies you eventually will.

You are so deluded......


A little info on the Christians in Saudi Arabia.

Christian community today

There are more than a million Roman Catholics in Saudi Arabia. Most of them are expatriate Filipinos and Indians who work there, but who do not have the citizenship of Saudi Arabia.[1][2] The percentage of Christians of all denominations among the about 1.2 million Filipinos in Saudi Arabia likely exceeds 90%.[3] There are also Christians from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, Ethiopia, Nigeria, Kenya, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and as well a number of Christians from sub-Saharan countries who are working in the Saudi Kingdom.[3]
Saudi Arabia allows Christians to enter the country as foreign workers for temporary work, but does not allow them to practice their faith openly. Because of that Christians generally only worship in secret within private homes.[3] Items and articles belonging to religions other than Islam are prohibited.[3] These include Bibles, crucifixes, statues, carvings, items with religious symbols, and others.[3]
The Saudi Arabian Mutaween (Arabic: مطوعين), or Committee for the Propagation of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice (i.e., the religious police) prohibits the practice of any religion other than Islam.[3] Conversion of a Muslim to another religion is considered apostasy,[3] a crime punishable by death if the accused does not recant.[3] The Government does not permit non-Muslim clergy to enter the country for the purpose of conducting religious services.[3]
International Christian Concern (ICC) protested what it reported as the 2001 detention of 11 Christians in Saudi Arabia, for practicing their religion in their homes.[4] In June 2004, ICC reported on what it termed a "pogrom-like" crackdown by Saudi police on Christians after media reports of Koran desecration in Guantanamo Bay.[5]
Christians and other non-Muslims are prohibited from entering the cities of Mecca and Medina, Islam's holiest cities.[3]
[edit]Churches

Currently there are no official churches in Saudi Arabia of any Christian denomination.[3] The small number of Saudi Arabian Christians meets in internet chat rooms and private meetings.[3] Foreign Christians may meet at church meetings held at one of several embassies after registering and showing their passport to prove foreign nationality, or by private assemblies in school gyms located in gated communities on Aramco grounds. They can also hold services in each others houses.
[edit]Demographics

The percentage of Saudi Arabian citizens who are Christians is officially zero,[6] as Saudi Arabia forbids religious conversion from Islam (Apostasy) and punishes it by death (Capital punishment in Saudi Arabia).[3][7]

[aegsm76]

Wii - I am glad to see you here, but just as you view certain things as indefensible in the Christian religion, we also view certain things in your religion as indefensible.
Sometimes you are better off to get off those topics and move on to another.
Just sayin...

[Walks_in_islam]

It is you who are deluded. I lived there and my neighbors were all christian. They were from all over this country and from all parts of the world.

Therefore: I don't give a hoot what your article says because experience trumps nonsense. A little info on christians in Saudi Arabia: Our recreation division had a full-time minister on staff and my neighbors went to church every weekend for the entire 3 years we were there and they are still going.

OH and they have bibles and put up christmas lights and do the same things you do here also. Instead of spreading your nonsense like the unlearned sheeple you appear to be you need to (since you have so much time to waste copying and pasting nonsense on the internet) sign up on an expat forum, any expat forum, and ask them, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE NOW AND TODAY (and have no reason or motive to lie about life there) for yourself.

Better just admit you condone murder in your own communities while looking time zones away for "evil things" you can throw stones at.

Originally Posted by strait shooter

You are so deluded......


A little info on the Christians in Saudi Arabia.

[Walks_in_islam]

I hear what you are saying but it is illogical to say "Muslims condone terrorists" when terrorists and extremists are cheerfully executed when caught in Muslim countries. It is entertainment for them.

Originally Posted by aegsm76

Wii - I am glad to see you here, but just as you view certain things as indefensible in the Christian religion, we also view certain things in your religion as indefensible.
Sometimes you are better off to get off those topics and move on to another.
Just sayin...

[Praxeas]

Wii, when you say "went to church" do you mean an actual church building like we have here or do you mean they went to someone's home?

[Walks_in_islam]

No they gave 'em their own building Prax and they have church on Fridays which is the same day we all go to our mosques (and is the last day of the thu/fri weekend) Actually each community has a building. And it's not "went" it's "go" to church. Do you recall that I had any issue / trouble / delay with looking up / posting/researching bible passages while we were sniping each other back and forth between Saudi and the US? LOL

Today's news - since it's on Fox it must be true LOL

Indonesian anti-terrorism forces shot and killed an alleged militant and arrested another in a predawn raid Saturday in Central Sulawesi province, police said.

National police spokesman Brig. Gen. Boy Rafli Amar said the two suspects were among fugitives wanted for the assassination of two police officers who were killed last month while investigating terrorist activities in the area.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/11...#ixzz2BAa2LWz6

This country is 95%+ Islamic (and they don't average 250,000 rounds per insurgent either LOL). Question (it's simple yes or no): If Muslims in Muslim countries are executing terrorists are they condoning terrorism? You people believe that the terrorists represent Islam. We believe that the executioners represent Islam.

We have a lot of pics taken in Saudi. Lemme see if I can find some of christmas lights LOL. I KNOW we have pics of the holloween decs that were put out annually.

[bbyrd009]

Man, I guess I went overboard,
got labeled an Islamophile or whatever,
replying to the offensive tripe that I read here;
but please believe that I am a Christian,
and I love America. And that I am ashamed
to compare Houston to any mid-east city
that I have been to.

All the yacky Fox articles in the world,
of some doubtful exceptions, will not
witness against what I have seen with my
own eyes, many, many, times.

God will judge all hearts, amen.
Peace to you all.

[Walks_in_islam]

A nod to anyone who has been in the middle east and declare this to be right or not. I visited and travelled and stayed in them all including Mecca.

There has never been any or I have never experienced any kindness anywhere compared to the kindness that I experienced, a white boy redneck, in the city of Mecca this past January.

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Man, I guess I went overboard,
got labeled an Islamophile or whatever,
replying to the offensive tripe that I read here;
but please believe that I am a Christian,
and I love America. And that I am ashamed
to compare Houston to any mid-east city
that I have been to.

All the yacky Fox articles in the world,
of some doubtful exceptions, will not
witness against what I have seen with my
own eyes, many, many, times.

God will judge all hearts, amen.
Peace to you all.