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08-24-2012, 01:40 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
Are strict church rules really relevant? I'm pretty sure that liberal denominations have similar issues with perverts. 
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08-24-2012, 01:45 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Are strict church rules really relevant? I'm pretty sure that liberal denominations have similar issues with perverts. |
This is news because it's the church of the guy who created the Affirmation Statement. You know, the guy who wanted purity? To kick all of the unholy people out?
From what I gather the allegations are that the pastor was having sex with young women and his son has a thing for underage males? Oh, and that the church finances are a mess and money is missing?
Yeah, that sounds like your typical ultracon holiness church to me.
The good thing is that brand of "Apostolic" is forever marked in that community.
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08-24-2012, 01:54 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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This is news because it's the church of the guy who created the Affirmation Statement. You know, the guy who wanted purity? To kick all of the unholy people out?
From what I gather the allegations are that the pastor was having sex with young women and his son has a thing for underage males? Oh, and that the church finances are a mess and money is missing?
Yeah, that sounds like your typical ultracon holiness church to me.
The good thing is that brand of "Apostolic" is forever marked in that community.
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Unless you can provide stats that show ultra-conservative groups have a higher rate of perverts than liberal groups, your point doesn't really have much validity. What I think is more relevant is that perhaps God doesn't appreciate holier-than-thou attitudes and may allow things to come to light in order to provide some come-uppance. The fact that people don't watch TV doesn't mean they are more likely to molest children.
Also, the article says that the new pastor is fully cooperating with the authorities: "The church’s new pastor, Nathan Dudley, said he could not comment on any allegations or the police investigation, telling WIBW that he does not want to do anything to impede on the JCPD probe but that the church is fully cooperating with authorities. Dudley says he has only been the pastor for several days."
If the leadership of the church cooperates and is forthcoming with all necessary information, it won't hurt their reputation in the community. It's a good way to restore it, actually.
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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08-24-2012, 01:59 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Originally Posted by Chateau d'If
This is news because it's the church of the guy who created the Affirmation Statement. You know, the guy who wanted purity? To kick all of the unholy people out?
From what I gather the allegations are that the pastor was having sex with young women and his son has a thing for underage males? Oh, and that the church finances are a mess and money is missing?
Yeah, that sounds like your typical ultracon holiness church to me.
The good thing is that brand of "Apostolic" is forever marked in that community.
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This story is heartbreaking. 
All of Christianity suffers when stuff like this happens.
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08-24-2012, 02:00 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
These types of thing happen across all denominations. It is sad to say the least and we need to pray for the victims and the saints of this church because they are in for a Faith shaking storm.
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08-24-2012, 02:09 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
How would you like to be the new pastor that stepped into that mess? God give him wisdom and strength.
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08-24-2012, 02:10 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Originally Posted by Chateau d'If
This is news because it's the church of the guy who created the Affirmation Statement. You know, the guy who wanted purity? To kick all of the unholy people out?
From what I gather the allegations are that the pastor was having sex with young women and his son has a thing for underage males? Oh, and that the church finances are a mess and money is missing?
Yeah, that sounds like your typical ultracon holiness church to me.
The good thing is that brand of "Apostolic" is forever marked in that community.
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Don't you feel any conviction typing this stuff?
Bad enough the son was arrested, but you speak badly of the Pastor too?
Don't you have any conviction?
Or do you think it is God's Will for you to kick a man when he is down?
Despite what has happened, you yourself are on thin ice and you better go pray.
I am not being sarcastic and there aren't any smileys.
Be careful!
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08-24-2012, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
Are strict church rules really relevant? I'm pretty sure that liberal denominations have similar issues with perverts. |
They are not! Some people never move on from bitterness.
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08-24-2012, 02:23 PM
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Re: Pedophilia in Kansas Church
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Don't you feel any conviction typing this stuff?
Bad enough the son was arrested, but you speak badly of the Pastor too?
Don't you have any conviction?
Or do you think it is God's Will for you to kick a man when he is down?
Despite what has happened, you yourself are on thin ice and you better go pray.
I am not being sarcastic and there aren't any smileys.
Be careful!
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No.
I am simply tired of the church ignoring the fact that hard-liners have huge moral issues. They hide behind a look while engaging in gross sin.
These are the guys who constantly push ministers out of orgs because of doctrinal impurities.
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