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Old 04-11-2007, 05:15 PM
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PO is it kissy kissy time?
I'm not touching that one. I recognized his steps coming up the walk and knew it wasn't my son though!
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:16 PM
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You go girl ,Po have a good evening.
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There they can find plenty of fault.
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Old 04-11-2007, 05:21 PM
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You go girl ,Po have a good evening.
You too, brother!
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Old 04-11-2007, 08:26 PM
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I appreciate this and will get it for a couple ladies that I'm talking with now.

However, in this case, I believe she actually fears for her life (he has bad temper), so it's time to move on.
BTW, this is an older book. I ordered a few copies off of half.com so I know you can find them there.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:30 AM
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Newman....can you show me where I said "ruler"? I did say order of creation did I not?

Anyways, continuing that subject
Thayers says
Thayer Definition:
1) the head, both of men and often of animals. Since the loss of the head destroys life, this word is used in the phrases relating to capital and extreme punishment.
2) metaphorically anything supreme, chief, prominent
2a) of persons, master lord: of a husband in relation to his wife
2b) of Christ: the Lord of the husband and of the Church
2c) of things: the corner stone

Now, before you poopoo that, let's also look at Zodhaites lexicon

(II) Metaphorically of persons, i.e., the head, chief, one to whom others are subordinate, e.g., the husband in relation to his wife (1Co_11:3; Eph_5:23) insofar as they are one body (Mat_19:6; Mar_10:8), and one body can have only one head to direct it; of Christ in relation to His Church which is His body, and its members are His members (cf. 1Co_12:27; Eph_1:22; Eph_4:15; Eph_5:23; Col_1:18; Col_2:10, Col_2:19); of God in relation to Christ (1Co_11:3). In Col_2:10 & Eph_1:22, God the Father is designated as the head of Christ. Generally, of a leader or ruler (Sept.: Jdg_11:11).

Now...I don't have Liddel and Scott here, but I am wondering...were you only looking up the general definition? Is that a dictionary or a lexicon? Lexicographers show how a word has meaning depending on the context and grammar and not merely the definition

Let's also look at how else this word is used
1Pe 2:7 Therefore to you who believe is the honor. But to those who are disobedient, He is the Stone which the builders rejected; this One came to be the Head of the corner,

Col 2:10 And you are complete in Him, who is the Head of all principality and power,

Col 1:18 And He is the Head of the body,
the church, who is the Beginning, the First-born from the dead, that He may be pre-eminent in all things.

Eph 1:22 And He has put all things under His feet and gave Him to be Head over all things to the church,

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Praxeas- Your post has caused me pause. I need to find out more about Eph 1:22 and Judges 11:11 and ILG's argument in reference to Scripture in 1 Corinthians 15.

However, it will most likely be a long time before I get back on the track. When I have pending trial work; posting research type posts just seems like more work than the fun that they normally are.

So at the present time; scholarly thought and posts that take more research are out. Off the top of my head posts on easier topics will be all the I can manage until sometime in the future. Such is life...
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:23 AM
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Praxeas- Your post has caused me pause. I need to find out more about Eph 1:22 and Judges 11:11 and ILG's argument in reference to Scripture in 1 Corinthians 15.

However, it will most likely be a long time before I get back on the track. When I have pending trial work; posting research type posts just seems like more work than the fun that they normally are.

So at the present time; scholarly thought and posts that take more research are out. Off the top of my head posts on easier topics will be all the I can manage until sometime in the future. Such is life...
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Old 04-14-2007, 01:24 AM
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Praxeas- Your post has caused me pause. I need to find out more about Eph 1:22 and Judges 11:11 and ILG's argument in reference to Scripture in 1 Corinthians 15.

However, it will most likely be a long time before I get back on the track. When I have pending trial work; posting research type posts just seems like more work than the fun that they normally are.

So at the present time; scholarly thought and posts that take more research are out. Off the top of my head posts on easier topics will be all the I can manage until sometime in the future. Such is life...
Newman no one is implying women are not smart look at my wife she chose me.
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:29 AM
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For the record (at this point) I still see the issue as cultural regardless of what Paul meant by "head" based on the big picture and context of the passage.
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:36 AM
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For the record (at this point) I still see the issue as cultural regardless of what Paul meant by "head" based on the big picture and context of the passage.
Have I told you that you are incorrect on this matter?
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:36 AM
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Newman no one is implying women are not smart look at my wife she chose me.
I could say "no comment" to imply thoughts to the contrary. However, I think you are probably right. It seems that your wife picked out a very fine husband!

Of course it would be nice if she got on here, so we could ask her.
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