David Bernard Weighs In on General Board Decision

[Encryptus]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Oh no, I believe the entire PPH/Marketing operation should be shut down completely. I also don't believe they are the bad guys for cutting workforce. I would have done the same thing.

The issue is how can we expect Foreign Missions and Home Missions to cover the deficit that PPH will continue to run from this point forward? The layoffs were a bandaid. They need to shut the whole thing down.

Currently those divisions cover PPH's losses by diverting donations that are supposed to be helping ministry - not Marketing. It would also help if they would cut out the $12,000.00 birthday parties they throw for the Haneys and Jones every year.

OUCH!!!!

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Exaggeration, much?

I didn't think we had that a lot of Apostolic preachers who are millionaires. You make it sound like its common among Apostolic preachers. I would say it certainly is not.

Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.

Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.

Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.

And you know this because...?!

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.

Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.

OK, this is none of my business because I do not financially support the UPC (except for occasional purchases from the PPH and a subscription to the Herald), but, what kind of salary, benefits, and perks to executives at WEC receive? Just curious.

[Stephanas]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Oh no, I believe the entire PPH/Marketing operation should be shut down completely. I also don't believe they are the bad guys for cutting workforce. I would have done the same thing.

The issue is how can we expect Foreign Missions and Home Missions to cover the deficit that PPH will continue to run from this point forward? The layoffs were a bandaid. They need to shut the whole thing down.

Currently those divisions cover PPH's losses by diverting donations that are supposed to be helping ministry - not Marketing. It would also help if they would cut out the $12,000.00 birthday parties they throw for the Haneys and Jones every year.

This can't be true.

I've read all the SFC, CFC, and Faith Promise brochures and I've never seen any mention of $12k birthday bashes.

It just can't be true.

(Could it be true that $50/month of my Faith Promise for the past twenty years has gone to pay for one birthday party, and I didn't even get an invitation.)

[TrueNorth]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Oh no, I believe the entire PPH/Marketing operation should be shut down completely. I also don't believe they are the bad guys for cutting workforce. I would have done the same thing.

The issue is how can we expect Foreign Missions and Home Missions to cover the deficit that PPH will continue to run from this point forward? The layoffs were a bandaid. They need to shut the whole thing down.

Currently those divisions cover PPH's losses by diverting donations that are supposed to be helping ministry - not Marketing. It would also help if they would cut out the $12,000.00 birthday parties they throw for the Haneys and Jones every year.

Bro.
12 k would be extravagant - is that some kind of thing for the whole staff?

[TrueNorth]

Originally Posted by Alter Ego

Some have certainly become millionaires. The housing allowance, retirement benefits and salary of a typical WEC executive is quite lucrative.

Not to mention "double-dipping." Men who are supposed to be working and receiving a salary from the org, yet are out preaching every weekend and getting paid handsomely for that as well.

You don't think they should work on the weekends?
How many days a week should they work at HQ?

[Pressing-On]

Wow, lots of "stuff" being thrown around on this thread.

[Jehoram]

Originally Posted by TrueNorth

Bro.
12 k would be extravagant - is that some kind of thing for the whole staff?

They are invited to it.

It is absolutely true.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Wow, lots of "stuff" being thrown around on this thread.

Yup!