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Old 10-07-2008, 03:46 PM
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Re: Blacks and Latinos in the UPCI Question.

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Sam... totally unrelated to anything here... has anyone told you you look a lot like Lee Stoneking in that picture?


Just wondering, thats all...
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No, nobody ever told me that.
The picture was taken two or three years ago at a funeral.

I don't think I've ever seen or heard Lee Stoneking.
I've heard some stuff about him though.
(and if that stuff is true, I hope I don't look like him).
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:56 PM
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Is there a higher rate of immorality among preachers than there is among truck drivers, salesmen, waiters, actors, managers, welders, assemblers, etc.?
Dunno, but this reminds me of something my brother-in-law told me. He's a retired cop. Said the people who put up the biggest fight when arrested for a crime are lawyers and preachers!
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:06 PM
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has anyone told you you look a lot like Lee Stoneking in that picture?
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No, nobody ever told me that.
The picture was taken two or three years ago at a funeral.
It's a passing resemblance

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Old 10-07-2008, 06:22 PM
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Re: Blacks and Latinos in the UPCI Question.

TR and TS,

As I stated, I absolutely did NOT intend to throw a bomb in the discussion, much less leave, but I have not had much time on here.

You make an assertion that I received the information through UPC whispers - I did not, and explicitly prefaced my post by saying there was no UPC reference. I shared the article as I remembered it. Sorry that I did - because a quick search on the net did not take me to the full story.

Since it's become obvious you have a vested interest in this that I do not, I apologize and can remove the initial post if someone here finds it hurtful or offensive, contingent for repost if I find the story in question.
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Old 10-07-2008, 06:42 PM
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TR and TS,

As I stated, I absolutely did NOT intend to throw a bomb in the discussion, much less leave, but I have not had much time on here.

You make an assertion that I received the information through UPC whispers
- I did not, and explicitly prefaced my post by saying there was no UPC reference. I shared the article as I remembered it. Sorry that I did - because a quick search on the net did not take me to the full story.

Since it's become obvious you have a vested interest in this that I do not, I apologize and can remove the initial post if someone here finds it hurtful or offensive, contingent for repost if I find the story in question.
Lets be clear, Hoove:I never made any assertion that you received the information through UPC whispers, and I didn't notice where anyone else made such an assertion. But anyway...

What's done is done, what's been said has been said. You made your comments. I gave my comments in response, as others also did. You felt like clarifying your comments... the clarification is understood.

It's a dead issue with me at this point. I think we can all move along from here.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:07 PM
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Lets be clear, Hoove:I never made any assertion that you received the information through UPC whispers, and I didn't notice where anyone else made such an assertion. But anyway...

What's done is done, what's been said has been said. You made your comments. I gave my comments in response, as others also did. You felt like clarifying your comments... the clarification is understood.

It's a dead issue with me at this point. I think we can all move along from here.
TS did state: "I was wondering whether this may be something that was whispered about quietly..."


OK with me to move along - seeing I did not realize the sensitivity involved.
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Old 10-07-2008, 07:27 PM
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TS did state: "I was wondering whether this may be something that was whispered about quietly..."

OK with me to move along - seeing I did not realize the sensitivity involved.
Ok, I see that.
But I'll just add this if I may...

TS can speak for himself, but as far as how I read it... I didn't see it at all as him making an assertion that you got it through UPC whispers.

I took his statement to mean that your comment made him wonder if that was the kind of thing others have said behind closed doors, as justification for not promoting certain people into leadership positions over the years.

Anyway...just my 2 cents.
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Re: Blacks and Latinos in the UPCI Question.

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Lets be clear, Hoove:I never made any assertion that you received the information through UPC whispers, and I didn't notice where anyone else made such an assertion. But anyway...

What's done is done, what's been said has been said. You made your comments. I gave my comments in response, as others also did. You felt like clarifying your comments... the clarification is understood.

It's a dead issue with me at this point. I think we can all move along from here.
Hoover, there are no hard feelings or anything personal involved. My point was that I have heard the issue raised in this thread discussed many times in my life. In those conversations, I have never heard any proclivity or disporportionate tendency towards immorality discussed as a possible contributing factor. As TR correctly pointed out, my question was whether this was something that was quietly considered as a factor or whether it was something that was just completely your opinion.
There will probably never be anything on here that will ever rise to the point where I become personally offended or hold any grudge...it was just a wrinkle that I had never heard before.
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