Kurt Carr-Singing at Eastwood Pentecostal in Lake Charles

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Thad

Kirk needs to tell the other half of the story. There's as much of it going on in the ministry in the black church as it is the music dept. it's just not as evident. the preachers are living on the down low. A COGIC bishop from N carlolina just wrote a book about it.
most of the ones that turned out this way were TURNED OUT by Bishops and preachers.

This double lifestyle even has it's own slang name " living on the down-low"-

It is my observation, I could be wrong, the way black churches set up the hierarchy in their churches almost set the ministry above the people to where as calling their behavior in question almost impossible unless it came from an outside source.

I pray some of these men are exposed its a bad cycle that just begets perversion in other men, it needs to be broken!

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by staysharp

Sandra, recently Kirk Franklin said his estimate is that over half of the black men in gospel music are gay. These are startling stats if they are true.

Homosexuality is a spirit of perversion and for the life of me I cannot understand how the church can overlook it. What is doubly disturbing is how these men who sing, play, etc. can feel comfortable in the church atmosphere while living that lifestyle.

They sing, play, speak in tongues and sleep with each other. I have an immediate family member who live that lifestyle for over 20 years. Thank God he was finally delivered completely.

He will tell you its prevalent in churches everywhere with concentrations in the black community. The preachers aren't preaching against it, for fear of upsetting the apple cart.

I'm sure you are an expert on this seeing you are intricately involved with the Charismatic movement and witness it first hand. lol

The preachers aren't preaching against it ... you are soo right. I had a first cousin die of aids, he was only 40.

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

This double lifestyle even has it's own slang name " living on the down-low"-

It is my observation, I could be wrong, the way black churches set up the hierarchy in their churches almost set the ministry above the people to where as calling their behavior in question almost impossible unless it came from an outside source.

I pray some of these men are exposed its a bad cycle that just begets perversion in other men, it needs to be broken!

If it walks like a duck... its a duck. I have defended so many guys that were a little girly for years then to find out they were living a double life.
I don't do it anymore, if you waddle and limp your wrist .... you just might be GAY

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Thad

Kirk needs to tell the other half of the story. There's as much of it going on in the ministry in the black church as it is the music dept. it's just not as evident. the preachers are living on the down low.

A COGIC bishop from N carlolina just wrote a book about it.
most of the ones that turned out this way were TURNED OUT by Bishops and preachers.

Amazing. I'm blown away.

[staysharp]

Originally Posted by Sandra

If it walks like a duck... its a duck. I have defended so many guys that were a little girly for years then to find out they were living a double life.
I don't do it anymore, if you waddle and limp your wrist .... you just might be GAY

Yep. My brother was a homosexual, but he admitted it and openly lived it. Subsequently, when God delivered him, he knew the difference between right and wrong.

It makes me ask the question how much sexual abuse is going on in the black churches? If the ministry is molesting the boys and turning them out, I think ultimately it's going to blow up like the catholics.

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by SecretWarrior

That very may well be. however,my point is that Sandra has been quick to point out when Thad was spreading Gossip.Perhaps it's not gossip when it's not about her friends

I was just curious if thad knew KC'S take on homosexuality.. thats all. I toured with KC for 6 weeks, I would consider him a good friend. Just never knew his take on this topic.... most Black gospel males are homosexual, its a FACT.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Sandra

If it walks like a duck... its a duck. I have defended so many guys that were a little girly for years then to find out they were living a double life.
I don't do it anymore, if you waddle and limp your wrist .... you just might be GAY

Man, I would have been angry if I were sticking up for these guys only to find out they are living a lie-

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Man, I would have been angry if I were sticking up for these guys only to find out they are living a lie-

It has happened to me several times. I recommened one to be a minister of Music. The Pastor asked the question if he was a real man and laughed. I assured him he was. well......
He went there and later found out he had affairs with 2 men in the church.
Made me SICK! I have yet to talk to that pastor.

[Elizabeth]

Originally Posted by Sandra

It has happened to me several times. I recommened one to be a minister of Music. The Pastor asked the question if he was a real man and laughed. I assured him he was. well......
He went there and later found out he had affairs with 2 men in the church.
Made me SICK! I have yet to talk to that pastor.

Thats sad and gross, but how could you for see THAT happening?

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by Jeanie

Thats sad and gross, but how could you for see THAT happening?

I DO NOT recommend" Single Male Music People " anymore...... NEVER!!