Ironic some of the same people condoning gossip say you'll split hell open if your Godhead views are different than theirs.
Gossip is acceptable because it allows people to feel good about their sins.
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Originally Posted by Ferd
come on people cant we just move on? really 145 pages of this? I know it was a high profile deal but good grief!
and seriously dude! get over it! unless you are a member of the church you have no business getting involved in what people are paid! how freaky can you get????
AND if you are a member of the church, the LAST place you need to be getting information is from the INTERNET!
DONT GO AWAY MAD PEOPLE. JUST GO AWAY!!!!
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
The Bible makes it clear it is morally wrong. Your opinion doesn't help the situation. Scripture after scripture has been posted why this thread isn't Christlike.
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No one is making you stay here and read this! You may have a right to voice your opinion, but so do I.
You do NOT have the right to tell people to quit posting on a topic simply because it is something you or tv1a or whoever does not like the topic being discussed!
Why don't you go away if it offends you so much?
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
No one is making you stay here and read this! You may have a right to voice your opinion, but so do I.
You do NOT have the right to tell people to quit posting on a topic simply because it is something you or tv1a or whoever does not like the topic being discussed!
Why don't you go away if it offends you so much?
I defend your right to say things that can only do you harm. Proverbs 26:11
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Its interesting how people are so quick to type their opinions on forums such as this. You haven't seen my checkbook and don't know what business of mine it is to ask this question. If the information was available where it should be, I would not be asking this question here. I appreciate your concern in this matter. I could say a lot more but, for the sake of not being "freaky" I will stop there.
Where do you think the salary information of a church should be available?
If you are a supporting member of the church, that's one thing.....but, if you are not, it's really none of your business or mine how much any pastor of any church makes......but, I am curious as to where you think this info should be posted for the general public's perusal?
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come on people cant we just move on? really 145 pages of this? I know it was a high profile deal but good grief!
and seriously dude! get over it! unless you are a member of the church you have no business getting involved in what people are paid! how freaky can you get????
AND if you are a member of the church, the LAST place you need to be getting information is from the INTERNET!
DONT GO AWAY MAD PEOPLE. JUST GO AWAY!!!!
Well, in actuality, a non-profit organization is supposed to make their books public. You can find out the salaries of CEOs and leaders of non profits anywhere from the American Red Cross to the United Way. I have a problem with churches that want to be categorized with such entities but then won't conduct their finances in the same way. It's actually required by law. So what Barry is asking is not beyond the pail. And Barry is correct in stating that since the church finances were veiled in such secrecy it's not unreasonable to try find out information that should be made freely and openly on the Internet. There have been several members of this church who have found out more on this thread than has been revealed. When people act like they have something to hide, that means they probably have something to hide.
I am beginning to think this thread needs to die. This is NOT the place to find out or ask what any church's financial arrangements are.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Where do you think the salary information of a church should be available?
If you are a supporting member of the church, that's one thing.....but, if you are not, it's really none of your business or mine how much any pastor of any church makes......but, I am curious as to where you think this info should be posted for the general public's perusal?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Well, in actuality, a non-profit organization is supposed to make their books public. You can find out the salaries of CEOs and leaders of non profits anywhere from the American Red Cross to the United Way. I have a problem with churches that want to be categorized with such entities but then won't conduct their finances in the same way. It's actually required by law. So what Barry is asking is not beyond the pail. And Barry is correct in stating that since the church finances were veiled in such secrecy it's not unreasonable to try find out information that should be made freely and openly on the Internet. There have been several members of this church who have found out more on this thread than has been revealed. When people act like they have something to hide, that means they probably have something to hide.
Don't let folks intimidate you off of here Barry.
But THIS forum is NOT the place for that. IMO
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
Its interesting how people are so quick to type their opinions on forums such as this. You haven't seen my checkbook and don't know what business of mine it is to ask this question. If the information was available where it should be, I would not be asking this question here. I appreciate your concern in this matter. I could say a lot more but, for the sake of not being "freaky" I will stop there.
What's funny Barry72 is people reading through the thread and reading all the updates, and THEN getting all sanctimonious, preachy and self righteous about the content of the thread.
Reminds me of the preacher who would fly into St. Louis frequently to attend Cardinals games but then would rail on his young people about playing sports at school.