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05-28-2007, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Thad
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They knew that your wife was "Jesus Only" yet they still had her speak ???
I would like some details on that.
I find it interesting that someone complimented you all on your girls having to wear dresses. we seem to only get negative feedback in our community such as "legalism" and controlling things of that nature
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Posted by Kristin
Yes, they know we are Oneness Pentecostal, if that is what you mean.
The other night I spoke at a ladies meeting (Praise Keepers) and found it interesting that this AOG church was singing "He's God in the Father, God in the Son, God in the Holy Ghost, and all these 3 are one!" Funny how we use the same scriptures and the same songs!
I've had several ladies say that they wept and cried when they saw our show because of our holiness standards. There is a call to holiness even in this generation and the hunger for such is evident.
Kristin Hoover
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-28-2007, 01:58 AM
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Invisible Thad
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Posted by Kristin
Yes, they know we are Oneness Pentecostal, if that is what you mean.
The other night I spoke at a ladies meeting (Praise Keepers) and found it interesting that this AOG church was singing "He's God in the Father, God in the Son, God in the Holy Ghost, and all these 3 are one!" Funny how we use the same scriptures and the same songs!
I've had several ladies say that they wept and cried when they saw our show because of our holiness standards. There is a call to holiness even in this generation and the hunger for such is evident.
Kristin Hoover
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Hi Kristan
I find this whole thing ver intriguing. It's hard for me comprehend the AOG having you. the reason why is, the AGs where I live hate us and as far as know we have not shown any anomosity towards them in many many years. the biggest hurdle seems to be the Trinity and the fact we don't sacribe to it which makes us "heritics" in their eyes.
since you say they was so taken by your standards of dress, have they asked you a lot of Questions as to WHY you adhere to the dress code?
they have never brought up the doctrine ?
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05-28-2007, 02:13 AM
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I do not profess to be a theologian, but I have felt the urgency that God is wanting to pour His Spirit upon our generation. Whatever I can do in the kingdom to promote this, I am a willing servant.
I believe God placed us in the WifeSwap episode, fullfilling a word He spoke to me at the Azusa Street Celebration, to spread this message about the baptisim of the Spirit.
We're not abrasive with doctrinal differences, in order to tell others about this beautiful gift we have received.
After all, the Bible says the Holy Ghost will lead and guide into all truth (but they must receive it first!).
Kristin
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-28-2007, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Brother Epley,
We have chosen as a family, not to have broadcast television pumped into our home. However, we believed this was an open door that God had created, and that he could even make 'the rocks cry out' if he wanted to. God is not limited to our own bounderies.
The fact that we had never even seen the show until after ABC approved us is exactly why we were chosen - we are conservative.
Thanks for the clarification, Kristin
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do you watch videos/DVd?
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05-28-2007, 10:51 AM
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do you watch videos/DVd?
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Yes we do watch some.
We also realize there are valuable programs on TV, but do not see the value of having cable or satellite to get them when our family would disprove of most things on TV. This is a personal thing at the Hoover house, not something seen as test of membership at the church we attend. Certainly if one has television the remote should not be accessible to children.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-28-2007, 10:59 AM
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God's Son
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This better make it into someone's mass mailing about television advertising. I love the story. It's only the beginning..
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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
Posted by Kristin
Tonight, Pentecost Sunday, we were able to share
our testimony at an Assembly Of God church, and are thankful that God poured out his Spirit again!
Several came to us saying they had
not spoken in tongues for years, but the power of God
moved tonight and they were refilled.
Another lady received the baptism of the Spirit for
the first time tonight. Hallelujah!
We have also been amazed at the hunger for holiness
that people have expressed since the show.
I encourage you to be bold in the Spirit, the world
is looking for a strong witness in these last days.
God Bless!
--Kristin Hoover
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Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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05-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover
I do not profess to be a theologian, but I have felt the urgency that God is wanting to pour His Spirit upon our generation. Whatever I can do in the kingdom to promote this, I am a willing servant.
I believe God placed us in the WifeSwap episode, fullfilling a word He spoke to me at the Azusa Street Celebration, to spread this message about the baptisim of the Spirit.
We're not abrasive with doctrinal differences, in order to tell others about this beautiful gift we have received.
After all, the Bible says the Holy Ghost will lead and guide into all truth (but they must receive it first!).
Kristin
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And there we have it... in a nutshell.
One time I came home from work and we had a couple over to visit. They had been over for a while and the wife of the couple (who went to church with us) had decided that they were going to show him the oneness.
They had argued with him for hours by the time I got home. They informed me that he was hard headed and that I needed to set him straight.
First... I told them... don't ever think you got this from personal knowledge... it was revelation from God...
Then I sat down with him. He started showing me where I was in error. I interjected a few things here and there but let him talk. He kept going from scripture to scripture and I would say things as I felt led.
After an hour or so he read a scripture.... looked a little confused... flipped a few pages.... read to himself... looking a little confused....then he got it.
He was baptized in Jesus name the next day.
They less often hate our doctrine... and more often hate how they perceive we will be toward them and their doctrine.
I find that those outside the oneness belief are receptive as long as they are not met with arrogance but are spoken to as if they actually have some capacity to think for themselves.
People know when you join a conversation and have no intention of ever listening to a word they say.
They know when every word they say is simply being sized up for another "straightening out" session.
And... they know when you are listening to them as intelligent people and when you hear their words as if you may actually learn something from them.
It can be boiled down to this...
They don't care what you know until they know that you care.
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05-29-2007, 06:07 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Trying to post a few pics from Sunday. It's obvious I don't know how.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-29-2007, 07:14 PM
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Supercalifragilisticexpiali...
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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth
And there we have it... in a nutshell.
One time I came home from work and we had a couple over to visit. They had been over for a while and the wife of the couple (who went to church with us) had decided that they were going to show him the oneness.
They had argued with him for hours by the time I got home. They informed me that he was hard headed and that I needed to set him straight.
First... I told them... don't ever think you got this from personal knowledge... it was revelation from God...
Then I sat down with him. He started showing me where I was in error. I interjected a few things here and there but let him talk. He kept going from scripture to scripture and I would say things as I felt led.
After an hour or so he read a scripture.... looked a little confused... flipped a few pages.... read to himself... looking a little confused....then he got it.
He was baptized in Jesus name the next day.
They less often hate our doctrine... and more often hate how they perceive we will be toward them and their doctrine.
I find that those outside the oneness belief are receptive as long as they are not met with arrogance but are spoken to as if they actually have some capacity to think for themselves.
People know when you join a conversation and have no intention of ever listening to a word they say.
They know when every word they say is simply being sized up for another "straightening out" session.
And... they know when you are listening to them as intelligent people and when you hear their words as if you may actually learn something from them.
It can be boiled down to this...
They don't care what you know until they know that you care.
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D4T, Amen. You are right.
The fastest way to lose credibility is to offend.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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05-29-2007, 07:33 PM
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Create Your Own Rainbows!
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Trying to post a few pics from Sunday. It's obvious I don't know how.
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Cool. I thank God for the doors that opening for you guys to minister because of the show.
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