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Old 09-09-2024, 07:39 AM
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*The fig tree represents the Bride
*Who broke the covenant relationship with God through disobeying His commandment
*Who tried to establish her own righteousness by covering with fig leaves instead of by faithful obedience
Wouldn't that be Eve? Trying to establish her own authority by leading her husband? I bet it was her idea to make aprons out of fig leaves. 1 Timothy 2:14

Adam loses his headship, because he knew full well what was going on.
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Old 09-09-2024, 08:06 AM
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Chris can't believe that his messing with a female in his van was brought up. Rick Joyner is mess, but Chris Reed is a mess. Chris Reed may sincerely believe that three years ago everything was put under the blood. He was caught through Katheryn's meeting with elders. She ended up telling them the reason for her smoking ganja was to calm her for what happened with the prophet. Rick Joyner shot himself in the foot for allowing the "caught" minister to stay. Not only stay but make Chris Reed the captain of the ship. Rick Joyner made Chris the Bishop. Rick is an idiot, and has to do some work in the woodshed. Chris shouldn't of made the first video, because no one on the internet or in real time can understand. Chris is digging a hole deeper, and deeper. Chris, you were messing around with a woman from THEIR SCHOOL. You had a clergy position, and you dropped the watermelon it's all over the place. Chris, you aren't repenting, you are just trying to make a landing pad so you can continue making money. Fame and Fortune! Good grief!
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Chris is looking pretty rough and scraggly in that video. Everybody pointing fingers at each other at Morning Star is just making things worse.
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Chris is looking pretty rough and scraggly in that video. Everybody pointing fingers at each other at Morning Star is just making things worse.
It's the nature of the beast. From what I gather from Chris' plea on his video. Is that Chris is the real victim. Rick Joyner is just trying to destroy Chris' ministry because Rick is afraid that Chris will empty Morning Star. Chris assures his viewers that was no such intent. Chris' main complaint is that he is losing money. He has no way to support himself, his wife, or his 6 children. If I were Chris, and being a prophet. I would've thought about all that before I started texting perversion to some woman. Chris was already flirting with perversion years before he was caught. Don't believe for one second that any human just pops up one day and betrays his wife and 6 CHILDREN! Jesus said if a man looks upon a woman and lustfully desires her in his mind. He has already committed the act of adultery. Hey, Chris has a problem. It's a problem of self control. I can't say this enough, there are Atheists, to Hindus who can control themselves. Who can be honorable. Who would never stab you in the back, let alone their wives, and their children! Chris just ain't getting this through his money soaked brain. I guess because as a society no one cares about a President pulling this stunt while in the highest office in the country. Therefore Churchanity couldn't care less. So, let's just get on with the show.

Betrayal, not just of a wife, but the children are scared as well.
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Wouldn't that be Eve? Trying to establish her own authority by leading her husband? I bet it was her idea to make aprons out of fig leaves. 1 Timothy 2:14

Adam loses his headship, because he knew full well what was going on.
I think the tree of life is symbolic
Which likely means the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is also symbolic.
And the fig tree is symbolic of Israel.
Possibly the fig leaves are also symbolic.

And I realize there are literal and symbolic applications.

The restoration of paradise in Rev 22 doesn't mean people are really eating leaves.
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I think the tree of life is symbolic
Which likely means the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is also symbolic.
And the fig tree is symbolic of Israel.
Possibly the fig leaves are also symbolic.

And I realize there are literal and symbolic applications.

The restoration of paradise in Rev 22 doesn't mean people are really eating leaves.
Amen, the writer of Revelation at no point believed we would be eating leaves with our 12 different fruit salad.
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You posted the tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes man’s free will to decide whether to follow Gods word or their own. If this is the case, do you believe the tree of life is the opposite? Another thing, where do you find in scripture that the tree of knowledge of good and evil symbolizes man’s free will to decide whether to follow Gods word or their own? Why were fig leaves used in covering Adam and Eve?
The Tree of Life is Christ.

The tree of knowledge of good and evil coupled with disobedience created the dual nature in man. Before this they were blind to sin and had no knowledge of it. God gave instruction to dress and keep the garden, but of the tree of knowledge of good and evil he said not to eat of it, never said they couldn't touch it. When Eve was deceived by the serpent, Adam ate of it because his wife gave it to him, it opened the realm of their will, desire or Gods word. They both chose to follow their own desire, pride, lust over the truth of Gods word.

The whole point of the deception of the serpent was to make Eve think she was going to become as god herself, how? Through knowledge, something she didn't understand but was so tempting to have. All knowledge is not necessarily good! There are some things that it is better not to know, no matter how curious that it may be.

I Corinthians 8:1
... Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth.

Ecclesiastes 1:18
For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.


The fig leaves were used because that was the tree they ate off of. God took what they made, and gave them coats of skins.

When I said the tree symbolized their will to Gods word, I meant it was God that told them (told Adam, who then told his wife) not to eat of it. The Bible speaks of Eves desire to eat the fruit during the conversation with the serpent, she was desiring to become wise (knowledgable). The word that was spoken to her (Gods direction) fell to the way side, while her desire, her will became superior to the word of God. Thus the will of both Adam and Eve overcame to word that God instructed them by.

When they left the garden they gained knowledge but not life.
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Do you know that one of the definitions of Morning Star is Lucifer?
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Do you know that one of the definitions of Morning Star is Lucifer?
That’s because KJV borrows from the Vulgate.
Jesus is also called lucifer in 2 Peter 1:19

2 Peter 1:19

Et habemus firmiorem propheticum sermonem cui bene facitis adtendentes quasi lucernae lucenti in caliginoso loco donec dies inlucescat et lucifer oriatur in cordibus vestris
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