UPCI pastor resigns amid teen sex charges

[coadie]

Originally Posted by ILG

Scotty, your daughter is acting pretty normally for what has happened. Just for the record, I worked as a domestic violence advocate for a year and a half. I also worked with sexually abused victims during that time. Although this does not make me an expert, I can say with a pretty good amount of certainty that you are thoroughly confused about what happened with your daughter, why it happened, and why she continues to act the way she does. You need to gain understanding. I will say she was probably attracted to the 22 year old.

She is NOT perfectly fine. She was victimized and taken advantage of. Society is at fault, yes. I agree with that. Society teaches both males and females wrong values. So, blame society, but understand your daughter is still totally confused. Sex abuse victims almost ALWAYS blame themselves. What happened was so traumatic that denial and pretending to be in control is easier.

The males are guilty in abuse cases. The divorce industry made this industry flourish.

The father is thouroughly confused. That is how we see it on teevee.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

IMO, exploring the reasons for a lack of self-control in a teenager is a separate issue from the topic of this thread.

Maybe so, but its an issue that could have alot to do with this topic and others like it.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by coadie

The males are guilty in abuse cases. The divorce industry made this industry flourish.

The father is thouroughly confused. That is how we see it on teevee.

I am not going to defend the abuse and divorce industry. That's why I left the job. Just that I've seen some thing up pretty close, both personally and professionally.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by ILG

Scotty, your daughter is acting pretty normally for what has happened. Just for the record, I worked as a domestic violence advocate for a year and a half. I also worked with sexually abused victims during that time. Although this does not make me an expert, I can say with a pretty good amount of certainty that you are thoroughly confused about what happened with your daughter, why it happened, and why she continues to act the way she does. You need to gain understanding. I will say she was probably attracted to the 22 year old.

She is NOT perfectly fine. She was victimized and taken advantage of. Society is at fault, yes. I agree with that. Society teaches both males and females wrong values. So, blame society, but understand your daughter is still totally confused. Sex abuse victims almost ALWAYS blame themselves. What happened was so traumatic that denial and pretending to be in control is easier.

So you believe that every teenage girl under 18 is a victim if they have sex? I can't buy that. I know too many girls that think it's totally normal to be having sex, not married and with guys even older than them.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by ILG

I do find your putting what you did about your daughters out here in very bad taste. Sorry if you find that offensive.

I dont find it offensive at all. Funny maybe (sadly enough), but not offensive. Like I said, her privacy was considered when I posted this, if that was in any threat I would not have posted it.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

So you believe that every teenage girl under 18 is a victim if they have sex? I can't buy that. I know too many girls that think it's totally normal to be having sex, not married and with guys even older than them.

No, of course not. You have to tie in the fact that these were adult, authority figures that we're dealing with that these girls were having sex with.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by ILG

I am not going to defend the abuse and divorce industry. That's why I left the job. Just that I've seen some thing up pretty close, both personally and professionally.

In other words your opinion is bias.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by scotty

In other words your opinion is bias.

Everyones opinion is bias.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by tstew

I find it conceivable that a 47 year old man and a 16-year old girl could both want to have sex...perhaps equally so...perhaps with the younger wanting it moreso than the elder.
That is not the issue to me. To me the issue is who has the greater responsibility both legally and morally to not do what they want to do. I think it's clear that this responsibility ultimately lies with the older pastor in this case.
There are countless underage children who desperately want to drink alcohol. However desirous they may be, if I as an adult began supplying them with alcohol, I would expect to shoulder the bulk of the legal and moral responsibility. It's just a part of being a grown-up.

Exactly.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ohio Pastor

FTR - the pastor in question resigned before the allegations were brought against him.

And this changes things how?