***JG says he's not going anywhere!!*** - Page 13

PastorD · #**121** 11-10-2007, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Neckstadt

Then he is headed the same direction as his church attendance has gone for the past few years. No where...

That's simply not true. Whatever JG is....he is a soul winner with a packed out church. Teaches several bible-studies personally every week. I have preaced for him for weeks at a time. I don't agree with everything about his thinking, but have the most respect for him.

jrLA · #**122** 11-10-2007, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pastor G

According to what the DS of Mo. told the brethren there... This is an illegal meeting in the UPC... Because the DS of OKlahoma has not been contacted, neither has the Presbyter of the Tulsa area been contacted and so on... So if they are going about having it in a way that is not according to protocol, one would assume that something is going on other than just a innocent gathering...

Yes, as well, I have spoken to several of the Men in the OK Dist. who are NOT happy about this meeting taking place. They (the Majority) are not pushing for this. Weather or not they agree with the vote.

tv1a · #**123** 11-11-2007, 05:54 AM

Far from it.

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Originally Posted by mizpeh

Are you from Texas also?

meBNme · #**124** 11-11-2007, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PastorD

That's simply not true. Whatever JG is....he is a soul winner with a packed out church. Teaches several bible-studies personally every week. I have preaced for him for weeks at a time. I don't agree with everything about his thinking, but have the most respect for him.

Would someone please clarify who in the world you are talking about when you say "JG"!!??

At least two people on here have thought that was Johnny Godair, but he is not in Tulsa, he's in NC. I have seen "WH" several times as well. How many pastors have these initials? Folks, this is how rumors get started. If you are to lazy to spell out someones name, don't post their initials to just leave it open for rumor mills and murmuring.

triumphant1 · #**125** 11-11-2007, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by meBNme

Would someone please clarify who in the world you are talking about when you say "JG"!!??

At least two people on here have thought that was Johnny Godair, but he is not in Tulsa, he's in NC. I have seen "WH" several times as well. How many pastors have these initials? Folks, this is how rumors get started. If you are to lazy to spell out someones name, don't post their initials to just leave it open for rumor mills and murmuring.

OK...JG is in fact the man from North Carolina....

WH is a reference to the poster "Whole Hearted" and not the other man in North Carolina...abriviating poster names is very common and once you've gotten used to the frorum shortcuts you will get it...my shortened name is T1.

The references about JG and Tulsa are about a conference he is helping to sponsor taking place in Jan. and in our fair city of Tulsa...there are multiple threads about this that are active right now.

The reason we do not spell out names has to do with decorum and slander....it has been a long held practice to use initials only when talking about Apostolic preachers (especially conservative ones) in a negative light or as a part of the routine gossip...in times past Admins would even delete posts and gives the poster an infraction (or even a ban) if they did not use initials only...

Joseph Miller · #**126** 11-11-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Thad

There was a group That was going to leave anyways

If you think about it, the UPC is fragmenting into 3 groups:

Those who remain UPC, The far right and the Tulsa group

That is only 2 groups listed there. The far right and the Tulsa group are one and the same. What is the third group?

Joseph Miller · #**127** 11-11-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kansas Preacher

There is nothing "illegal" if the men who put the meeting together are no longer in the UPC (which I know for a fact some of them will not be). They are not bound by the manual.

Furthermore, if they are not "preaching" for a non-UPC pastor in the area, there is nothing in the manual that requires notifying the presbyter, DS, or anyone else. When the National Youth Division brought a meeting to Kansas a few years ago, no one contacted me (I was DS then) OR the presbyter about it. In fact, they didn't even ask the local pastor. They just did it.

Complaining about this meetings seems like a double standard in my opinion.

That is the key, it was the organization bringing a meeting. The Tulsa meeting is being put together by men who are currently UPCI and have contacted the DS or presbyter.

Joseph Miller · #**128** 11-11-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

And we are glad that we don't have any liberal retards here or people like yourself.

Just little soldiers marching in step wating for their chance to drink the kool-aid.

Joseph Miller · #**129** 11-11-2007, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

Advertising on tv can be a problem if someone comes into the church because of a tv ad or program and then you tell him, "Well, brother, I know you got saved because you saw us on tv, but, now if you want to stay saved, you'll have to get rid of that tv."

Well that would never be the problem around our church. We preach control not that you will go to hell for having one because there is no way to prove that you will.