Maybe not in all things, but I have filled the role of father in many ways.
Those of you without experience really have no idea.
I had a single parent. So much for your "you can't talk unless your in my shoes" argument, which sometimes doesn't really matter. The evidence is mounting from the mouth of single parents, that while they fill-in for fatherly duties, they are in no way offering the true paternal influence that children need. This is why divorce wasn't God's plan, but we make it work the best we can, and pray God helps us raise up children in love with Jesus anyway.
If mom was a hooker, would that matter? I mean, she's a good parent (whatever you base "good parent" on). Sexuality doesn't matter. If she enjoys swinger parties and her escort duties, no harm. Right? WRONG.
The elements of sin brought into a home, particularly with the perversion of homosexuality are awful, and to couch them in the guise of normalcy by have two same-sex parents attempt to replace husband and wife is shameful.
Jeff, separate her actions as she practices her lifestyle from the parenting skills she provides to her children.
I've known people who are swingers and attend swinger parties, but they didn't do that in front of their children and NEVER brought it home. Their children had no knowledge. So tell me, how were the parenting skills affected?
Does sinful pleasures affect our children? Sure it does, but it has nothing to do with parenting skills, it's in addition to them. Lots of things affect our children, even when we don't mean it to, but that's in spite of our parenting skills. Things that happen to us in our life, whether it's in our control or not, doesn't affect parenting skills in the way you are claiming.
Gay parents don't encourage their children to also be gay. See, they don't think there's anything wrong with NOT being gay and also realize that most people aren't gay. In addition, they also believe that one is born gay (most believe that anyway), and also realize that most people aren't born that way.
But how that affects their parenting skills is still beyond me. While I agree that their lifestyle affects the children, I don't believe it has any bearing on the parenting skills they possess..
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Sure it can. It is in no way optimal, or preferable and certainly not easy, but as a matter of necessity, it is doable. Single parents, whether they be woman or man, have always existed and many have done exemplary jobs.
I disagree. yes a single parent can do it, but something will be lacking. A father can't be a mom and vice versa.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
Looks to me like God made these people like this cause they were not worshipping him.....Has nothing to do with it being a sin to be gay or lesbian..Once again I am not taking up for them but I will not quote scripture just to satisfy the "church crowd"
27In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
PENALTY!!!
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
Jeff, separate her actions as she practices her lifestyle from the parenting skills she provides to her children.
I've known people who are swingers and attend swinger parties, but they didn't do that in front of their children and NEVER brought it home. Their children had no knowledge. So tell me, how were the parenting skills affected?
Does sinful pleasures affect our children? Sure it does, but it has nothing to do with parenting skills, it's in addition to them. Lots of things affect our children, even when we don't mean it to, but that's in spite of our parenting skills. Things that happen to us in our life, whether it's in our control or not, doesn't affect parenting skills in the way you are claiming.
Gay parents don't encourage their children to also be gay. See, they don't think there's anything wrong with NOT being gay and also realize that most people aren't gay. In addition, they also believe that one is born gay (most believe that anyway), and also realize that most people aren't born that way.
But how that affects their parenting skills is still beyond me. While I agree that their lifestyle affects the children, I don't believe it has any bearing on the parenting skills they possess..
You see 'parenting skills' as compartmentalized (provide, says 'I love you", attends the soccer game, etc) and not holistic (the non-verbal, non-actions, modeling which shapes much of what children become, the spiritual component, values taught, worldview, etc). That's a problem.
If you haven't been there and done that, you really can't comment, IMO. Not meaning to sound ignorant, but I've been living it for the better part of 18 years.
I don't have live a certain life to have input. it's just impossible for a mom to be a dad too. Doesn't mean the women is doing a bad job, mom can't be dad and vice versa.
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Today pull up the little weeds,
The sinful thoughts subdue,
Or they will take the reins themselves
And someday master you. --Anon.
The most deadly sins do not leap upon us, they creep up on us.
So just ignore all the other dozens of post since your first one?
Okay.. so what you said is sort of ambiguous (clarified by your many other posts, which we will ignore though). You don't have as much a problem with same-sex couples raising children as you do with heterosexual couples that don't take care of theirs.
I don't get the either/or thing. Heteros should take care of their children -- check. Now, what do you find acceptable with same-sex couples? I'll ignore your very explicit posts that suggest you see sexuality as making no distinction in the quality of parents (somehow parenting only being action, and not modeling).
Daddy likes girls. Mommy doesn't. Does that mean their parenting skills are affected because one is attracted to girls and the other isn't? Maybe I'm dense, but I just don't see how you being attracted to girls affects how you parent your children. That subject has just never came up in the 18+ years I've been a parent when I've parented my children.
I love my children, but my liking boys instead of girls doesn't have anything to do with the love I have for my children.
I discipline my children, but I can do it just the same if I liked girls instead of boys.
I reward my children, but it doesn't come with the understanding that I'm heterosexual when doing so.
I teach my children, but my knowledge isn't any different now than it would be should my sexual orientation be different.
Am I still being clear as mud? I'm not speaking about how the children are affected by external things, but only in regard to the parenting skills of an individual.
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Daddy likes girls. Mommy doesn't. Does that mean their parenting skills are affected because one is attracted to girls and the other isn't? Maybe I'm dense, but I just don't see how you being attracted to girls affects how you parent your children. That subject has just never came up in the 18+ years I've been a parent when I've parented my children.
I love my children, but my liking boys instead of girls doesn't have anything to do with the love I have for my children.
I discipline my children, but I can do it just the same if I liked girls instead of boys.
I reward my children, but it doesn't come with the understanding that I'm heterosexual when doing so.
I teach my children, but my knowledge isn't any different now than it would be should my sexual orientation be different.
Am I still being clear as mud? I'm not speaking about how the children are affected by external things, but only in regard to the parenting skills of an individual.
So then, at least let me understand reach agreement with you on something you keep denying, despite saying it. Do you not believe there is any difference between a heterosexual couple and a homosexual couple with regard to child-rearing? Yes? No?
Parenting is not "parenting skills." A skill is a tool used. But parenting is much more broad, as I've stated in my previous posts. I don't think your dense, but I do believe your position to be naive.
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